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Anyone have experience with the new XDeep N700 regs? I guess they've been teased for years by XDeep and they're finally on the market. Just wondering if anyone has tried them out. Most of the videos or reviews about by XDeep SCUBA-influencers.
How do you guys/gals like them for BM or SM?
https://www.scubadivermag.com.au/xdeep-nx700-ls200/
https://www.tecdivegear.com/scuba-di...uble-tank.html
There is really no point in looking at reviews on youtube/facebook. They're pretty much all BS. People get free stuff (and/or money) in exchange to 'review' stuff. Having said that, even if they were honest, what can you say about a reg after using it a few times?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSeaMonkey
Good luck getting part a few years down the line.
Now, of course, in my opinion everthing xdeep makes and resells is garbage. I wouldn't want to buy a reg from any small company though, because you don't know whether you can get spare parts in the future.
That's why I only buy Scubapro and Apeks regs.
I don’t disagree with bent that much. Most all of the reviews on them are from xdeep fanboys. Many who receive free product. And after waiting years for these I think they could be the worst reg ever but they’re not going to say that. They have a cool looking for, factor but I don’t know how useful that is. Personally I wouldn’t buy an expensive set of regs with minimal service support in the US that are a first generation product from a company that’s never made regs before. Tecdivegear is the main US distributor. They’re customer service is spotty. If I had a reg issue and needed immediate assistance, I doubt I’d get it from them.
Hey Seamonkey, I just saw that you're looking for Apeks regs in the other thread. Just get Scubapros off of ebay or craigslist an get them serviced... mk10 or 20s with G250s go for pretty cheap and they're good regs. IMHO there is no advantage in getting fancy new regs.
There is always Deep6 and DiveRite... I'll let you know when I wear my DR's out.... going strong for almost 10 years.
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Originally Posted by twaldo
IMO neither of those brands stand up to the quality of a sp or apeks reg. DR regs can be a crap shoot. Some last 20 years, others give you issues regularly. D6 is another fanboy brand imo. After dealing with Chris and Hog regs with issues back in the day, I personally would never buy a product he sells. Both of the brands you've mentioned have gotten better over the years, but with the issues in their pasts I would be hardpressed to consider them.
I can't speak to the quality of the Deep 6 regs, I only have one and it is my non-sidemount open water regulator... meaning I don't dive it much... but I like it.... My DiveRite regs on the other hand (yes nomax suit is being worn) has yet to be serviced , every once in a while I have to tweak the 2nd stages.... there is NO salt in their history...When I do finally have to service them, I will likely buy a set of Chris's regs and see how much abuse they will take.Quote:
Originally Posted by rddvet
Some of the dr regs are great. Others arent. Its good you?ve had good success with yours. There has been some qc issues with them in the past. I will say in the last 5 years the quality of all dr gear has gone up. Not sure what changed.
Side note: i actually cant stand apeks regs. I feel theyve done the opposite of dr and quality has suffered some. In particular their hp seat issues. Which those that are apeks dealers will tell you isnt a real issue. But just between my wife, myself, and a local instructor most of you know, I believe we?re up to 6 hp failures in about 3 years. I?m always waiting for the next hp failure. Luckily none of mine have been on a dive.
The only pro to apeks is their ease of service, ubiquitous parts, and when they work they work well. Oh and you can easily get parts to block the ip for ccr use. But you can do the same with sp and halcyon?s diaphragm reg
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Not sure if you a really just trolling or just trying to be different. Makes no sense to buy new regs instead of getting them serviced. Instead of 'tweaking the 2nd stages' you should get the sets serviced for cave diving.Quote:
Originally Posted by twaldo
I don't get the appeal of deep6 regs. Considering they are a direct-to-consumer brand they are super pricey. Must be a marketing thing I'm not getting.
In you're case Waldo, I'd really spend that money on training instead of waiting for my regs to fail just buy new pricey ones.
I actually have training on servicing regulators, but I DO IT SO much... that I'll pay someone else... when I can't tweak the 2nd stages, I'll flip the LP seat... IP on the 1st stags has been solid... Otherwise the 2nd stages have been solid as well.
I see. So sidemount cave diving is not the only thing you're half-assing.Quote:
Originally Posted by twaldo
Yep.. I suggest you NEVER dive with me... I'm obviously an accident waiting to happen... of course I don't think I'd trust you either.. .someone THAT perfect is scary...Quote:
Originally Posted by bent
There is a recall of these regs already. But hey, if your one of the sucke... uhm, beta teste... uhm, customers, you get a free hood. Sweet. Looks like they've been thoroughly tested or at least now they are by the customers. Reminds me of that dive computer they used to sell.
Spot on. I am particularly wary of their own customers, retailers, "fanboys" testing the regs, how more biased can you get.
Not sure what the shorter rotating turret on the NX700 is supposed to achieve other than aesthetics.
IMO nothing beats Atomic, with SP and Apeks a close 2nd place.
Regulators are very low tech. They really haven't changed in decades. Sure there are some cosmetic differences and different marketing but the basic technology is the same. Manufacturing has become more efficient over the years with cnc equipment but I would say regs manufactured in the US, Italy, UK years ago had much better quality control than the ones coming out of China or Taiwan do today. I can't see spending the money on the latest and greatest regulators but there are apparently plenty of people who have money to burn, want to fit in or simply don't know any better who seem to keep these companies in business. I see people posting about their color matching regs and fins. I personally don't care and I actually think the airbrushed G250's or the clear G250's are cooler even though I don't have any.
Ive got a clear 250 in pristine condition I cant bring myself to actually useQuote:
Originally Posted by bamafan
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I wouldn't eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by rddvet