Trigon balanced pee valve leaks...

Not sure how many people here have one, but I'm trying to troubleshoot (or just replace) a pair of sitech trigon balanced pee valves. I have two valves on two suits and they leak small amounts of urine into the suit through the holes under the diaphragm in the balance chamber (so, I get a nice wet leg by the end of the dive). I have the new replacement chambers from SiTech, and they leak too. I'm just curious if anyone has any experience with these and have figured out how to prevent the leaks (cue 35 messages telling me to buy an unbalanced valve).

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Originally Posted by jason

... (cue 35 messages telling me to buy an unbalanced valve)...

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Uh, nevermind :-D

I had a Halcyon balanced p valve and it started leaking. It was the little duck bill valve under a special set screw. I just pulled out the duck bill valve and got a regular set screw without the hole in it and I now have a unbalanced p valve. Over 5 years later I haven't had a issue.

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Originally Posted by bamafan

I had a Halcyon balanced p valve and it started leaking. It was the little duck bill valve under a special set screw. I just pulled out the duck bill valve and got a regular set screw without the hole in it and I now have a unbalanced p valve. Over 5 years later I haven't had a issue.

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Is there a way to deactivate the valve or do you simply need to be "hooked up" all the time?

The Halcyon screws shut similar to a drysuit exhaust valve.

Make It unbalanced. Plug the inlet valve inside the suit, take off the outlet mushroom valve on the outside the suit, open the outside cover when you are hooked in and you can just shut off the outside cover whenever you are not plugging in. I had the same issue with my Hacyon balanced and more recently with my OThree balanced, they where both converted to unbalanced no more issues.

Gabe

I can’t figure out why balanced p valves even exist.

I’ve never once wished I had one, but I have wished that I DIDNT have one.

Get an unbalanced valve. #35messages

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Originally Posted by jason

Not sure how many people here have one, but I'm trying to troubleshoot (or just replace) a pair of sitech trigon balanced pee valves. I have two valves on two suits and they leak small amounts of urine into the suit through the holes under the diaphragm in the balance chamber (so, I get a nice wet leg by the end of the dive). I have the new replacement chambers from SiTech, and they leak too. I'm just curious if anyone has any experience with these and have figured out how to prevent the leaks (cue 35 messages telling me to buy an unbalanced valve).

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#36, Sorry Dude,

After ALL my balanced valves leaking, I've had ZERO (0) issues with my unbalanced valves...

Remove the duck bill or old dodge PCB valve and put a reg port plug in it with a dab of silicone and enjoy a pee free undergarment...

:)

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I have a Trigon myself and have experienced a wet thigh from time to time even when not urinating during the dive. No foul smell either so in my case i suspect water ingress caused by squeezed suit.

I have sent an email to Sitech and asked them how to make the valve unbalanced.

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Originally Posted by rcn

I have a Trigon myself and have experienced a wet thigh from time to time even when not urinating during the dive. No foul smell either so in my case i suspect water ingress caused by squeezed suit.

I have sent an email to Sitech and asked them how to make the valve unbalanced.

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I have the same problem as well.

Sitech is sending me a conversion kit to make it unbalanced while they continue fixing the issues with their balanced valves. This is the second kit I've been sent. The first kit was a new balance chamber that was supposed to fix the leaking problem.

Sitech is aware and is offering a replacement to all:
http://www.sitech.se/news/important-...pee-valve.aspx

I've already had this swap. It didn't work great for me. I'm being sent an unbalanced conversion kit while they continue to work out the links on the balanced valves.

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Originally Posted by jason

I've already had this swap. It didn't work great for me. I'm being sent an unbalanced conversion kit while they continue to work out the links on the balanced valves.

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Ditto, Sitech sends me an unbalanced house

We're not at 35 yet, add me to the just go unbalanced list

What happens when descending and not relieving at the same time with an unbalanced valve? Any discomfort?


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Originally Posted by rcn

What happens when descending and not relieving at the same time with an unbalanced valve? Any discomfort?

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No problem or discomfort - just pee enough to fill the tubing with urine before descending.

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Originally Posted by rcn

What happens when descending and not relieving at the same time with an unbalanced valve? Any discomfort?


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I leave the valve cracked a bit. Never a problem even doing super fast hot drops in the ocean on scooters.

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What happens when descending and not relieving at the same time with an unbalanced valve? Any discomfort?


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If you are plugged in just make sure the valve is open prior to entry. I have not filled the tube prior to entry and have never felt discomfort.

Gabe

light monkey valve with a bolt in it. hasn't failed yet.

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Originally Posted by divingabe

If you are plugged in just make sure the valve is open prior to entry. I have not filled the tube prior to entry and have never felt discomfort.

Gabe

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Agreed, the vacuum myth is busted, no discomfort whatsoever during descent to 250 ft.

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Originally Posted by PfcAJ

I can’t figure out why balanced p valves even exist.

I’ve never once wished I had one, but I have wished that I DIDNT have one.

Get an unbalanced valve. #35messages

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Because some dude used to rant all over the internet on the virtues of balanced pee valves. Same guy also said make all your second stages finger tight and do really deep stops and then shorten your shallow stops. :D

#39 or so who is mystified as why anyone would get a balanced pee valve.

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Originally Posted by kensuf

Because some dude used to rant all over the internet on the virtues of balanced pee valves. Same guy also said make all your second stages finger tight and do really deep stops and then shorten your shallow stops. :D

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Gee, I wonder who that could be :-D

https://www.frogkick.nl/files/george...r_articles.pdf

Interesting link..... I"m going to steal it and open a new thread because now I have questions not appropriate to a thread on P-valves.....