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Please complete the survey about the proposal for a rule change at the Chassahowitzka Wildlife Management Area(Eagles Nest & Buford Sink).
"Require SCUBA Divers to complete a no-cost, electronic registration prior to engaging in SCUBA diving on Chassahowitzka WMA. Additionally, specify that all divers registering to dive on Chassahowitzka WMA must be 18 years old or older due to the extreme danger involved in cave diving."
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FWC-P...hanges-2018-19
Thanks
TJ
I looked at the survey, what region is Chassahowitzka WMA considered to be in, since this is a question that is in the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
Also, with the directing this to scuba divers, does that mean they aren't differentiating between cave divers and OW divers for Eagles Nest by lumping everyone into the scuba diving category?
Chassahowitzka is in the SouthWest Region.
something wrong with the survey. it goes into an endless loop from where you provide your response...it brings u back to the list of proposals...but doesnt have a finished option
No FINISH on last page
The survey is it is looking for comments/feedback from shareholders(us) before the upcoming commission meeting December 5th, 6th, and 7th in Gainesville Florida. I will keep you posted as we get closer to the date as there will probably be voting and discussing this on only one day. Just FYI the survey brings you back to the southwest page so you can give input on other proposals. Please make comments as they read them.
How would this work? Would it be like the diepolder system where you need to register says in advance or would it be just join a registry and you're good to go.
choose "Return to Region Page", then choose "Finished". It's there, you just have to navigate one page further to get to it.
Just to clear up confusion the concept is what they are asking about the finial rule will be bigger and contain three sections when finished. 1. dangers of the site 2. required certs, deco, mixed gas, full cave, 100 post full cave cert dives. 3. application/permit with self attestation that the individual requirements are met including the 18yr old age requirement.
Just to clarify, that is only for Eagle's Nest, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
Buford is my only future interest as of right now, the experience necessary to dive the Nest safely will be out of reach for me for quite some time.
Buford will have a similar registration process but less recommended certs.
The vote by the FWC passed today. The proposed changes to the Chahazcowitzca Wildlife Management area will be put into effect.
Less recommended certs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
Thanks for the update. I hope you will let us know when and how to deal with the new rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
I will Don. I think a self-attestation, paying for a use permit(already done), and posting your permit on your dash, is a lot better than closure. Plus it makes it harder for open circuit divers to dive there(now not permitted).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsix36
Eagles Nest is a full cave dive only with recommended deco and trimix. Buford will not require full cave. One will still have to register, pay, and leave the permit on their dash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverhippi
Those darn OPEN CIRCUIT divers. :smt081Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
I thought it was going to be trimix requiredQuote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
Clarification. TJ meant open water divers. Properly trained open circuit cave divers can still dive there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
Let me the first to say:
NOOOOOO!!! Rules bad! I should be allowed to do whatever I want because I'm smart! Not like everyone says, like dumb! Personal responsibility! A whole online form?!?! This is terrible!!
There. Now that that is out of the way:
Many thanks to everyone who donated their contributions of time, energy, expertise, and voice towards keeping the site open for the community. Your work is valued!
Suggested regulation does not say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
The specific statement of cave diving is incorrect. Restricting age could be compared to not allowing children under 18 years old to hunt because of the extreme danger involved in hunting. About 700 people die in hunting accidents each year in the US; that far and beyond outweighs diving related deaths.
"Rule changes related to SCUBA diving the cave system at Chassahowitzka WMA
At its December meeting, the Commission approved drafts of major rule changes related to:
? Promoting safety awareness for those SCUBA diving in the cave system at Chassahowitzka WMA by prohibiting SCUBA diving there, except by persons at least 18 years of age who have completed a no-cost electronic registration with the Commission. This process would require divers to acknowledge the risks and need for specific, appropriate training and experience to dive the site.
? Staff have worked extensively with members of the cave diving community to develop this proposal, including representatives of 8 different SCUBA diving training organizations.
? Due to the dangers involved in this activity and support of the cave diving community, staff requested this rule to be approved for advertising and adoption as soon as possible if no additional public hearing is requested."
Thanks! Buford is on my absolute to dive list!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly-vester
Me too. Let's go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverhippi
You may want to wait about a month or two (depending on how dry the next 30 days are). It's about to rain quite a bit up here and unless you want to walk in hip waders I would wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverhippi
How long has the fence/gate been up at the iron ranger? I had a competition today at Hernando Sportsman's Club but haven't been out there in a long time and noticed the road is blocked. There was a sign but it was faded and hard to read.
There is a new entrance to the WMA about 4 miles down 19 from that entrance. Right where the dirt road stops paralleling US19.
It caught us off guard last weekend. Its definitely a much better entrance. Mich more convenient for getting to en and bufordQuote:
Originally Posted by cavemark
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