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No mount can be challenging, but if you need to do it for access to a cool system, then maybe it is worth the effort ! But the following video is just plain insane: ...........................>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg
Mods move this if you deem necessary, I found this intriguing to say the least.
Jack
I have no mounted a few times, and I always use a tether in case a tank takes off down a slope etc. I see they have a technique without a tether, and that may be a function of passage narrowness. Any thoughts from other no mounters of tether versus no tether?Quote:
Originally Posted by JE
doesn't really freak me out, but it seems boring to me. I guess we all have our favorite parts about cave diving.
cool video, glad i saw it, more glad i didn't lug all my stuff there to do it.
Why is this insane, Looks like a cool cave and really good viz too,
It is no-fins too, as well as no-mount.
It's pretty shallow
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Nice pull and slide action!
I spend a week a month in Wisconsin, are there any caves worth diving?
There are mostly mines
Is this the cave the beaver also uses. Might make a boring dive a little less if he is headed out while your on the way into the system
I love that little cave! I've yet to make it past the cheese grater restriction (too many cheese curds!), but it's a really fun and relaxing dive.
Gayle Orner'
Madison, WI
No beavers, this one has muskrats.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
It's different but enjoyable. There isn't much for natural caves to dive in Wisconsin and this one offers very clear water and beautiful features. It's not really a dive - more dry caving than anything being that you crawl through it without fins. But it's pretty, and it's cave and it's fun.
In wisconsin we usually dive old mines :
http://youtu.be/y0ygH6cnReI
http://youtu.be/jglSX-LVGls
Lots of neat stuff to be had in the region!
I'm thinking that groundwater in Wisconsin has to be very cold and that shrinkage is more of an issue than anything.
I've done it both ways, with and without tethers. If you don't use one you really need to be careful. I would say i prefer no tether though. Sometimes it hampers the ability to bend the way you need to. I have also found that at times I like to be able to wedge my tanks and move away from them a little bit if i need to dig on something. In a cave I was in recently I wished I could get the tanks a little farther from me because they kept sliding down into the restriction I was trying to dig out. Tanks are inconvenient...I need gills...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop
I saw this video a while ago and I think it is super cool, plus the music and editing is great IMO
Kelly, I am in the tether camp. Some passages that require no-mount can open up or be part of a larger fissure and possible allow for a tank to "make a run for it"... and in low/no vis, that's not fun. :)
What amazes me is the one diver's helmut comes off & then he is fiddling with his regulators as well ? I could be wrong. i need to watch this again.Quote:
Originally Posted by phillip1
No mount in a confined space has its advantages as you are less likely to get tangled in either your line or your gear...but again, I've been there & done this in tight restrictions where-as i felt completely at ease. Not gonna say where but the passages were outstanding to say the least. One more tidbit....proper training by a seasoned instructor is genuinely advised. Back in the day, after cavern & basic cave certs we learned by doing & experiences in progress, we were excited to find new caves & passages......today, the schooling and training available is tantamount to exploration cave diving.
That is my take on all this. The two or three divers doing the shallow cold water cave in Wisconsin seemed to be struggling & task loaded to boot !
My opinion only......but it was interesting to see what is up there !
No mount or any tight cave is really a mental thing, similar to big wave surfing, this is not any more dangerous than a larger cave or a head high wave, as long as you are comfortable and having fun. Super tight caves are all about actually liking tight caves and being 100% comfortable.
I can see where not using a tether may make things easier,but still prefer to have one. I recall Bill Rennaker talking about a tank getting away from him, and the only thing keeping his tank from running away was a 3 cent cable tie on his mouth piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tegg
That would not be my idea of fun. Another thing to take into consideration is just how negative your tank setup is. I always try to set mine up with a way to adjust the boyuancy during the dive. A neutral tank is not gonna go anywhere fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop
Castle Rock is actually a really nice cave system. I had a lot of fun the times I've been in there.