http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVmqK5YZuxM&hd=1
Russell or TJ...........This video should be affixed to the banner of the home page or at least to the top of the Forum. Lamar did a great job presenting this info video !
Jack e.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVmqK5YZuxM&hd=1
Russell or TJ...........This video should be affixed to the banner of the home page or at least to the top of the Forum. Lamar did a great job presenting this info video !
Jack e.
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Or in conjunction with OW classes even. Great job Lamar!
John
The first week of my open water classes included this video. Had some dive shop owners cringe when they viewed it. But I applied the cave issues to great lakes wreck penetrations. My students were made aware of the risks involved in advanced diving activities. Ken
Good idea.
How many divers are certified for OW each year in Florida?
How many shops or instructors teach OW classes in Florida?
Seems instructors could be motivated to showing this video in their OW classes.
Guys, There's a movement afoot to get this video updated. We're hoping to generate the funds and get a professional production of a similar video to "A Deceptively Easy Way To Die". While soliciting some cash, and producing a fantastic high def movie is the easy part; getting agencies, instructors and students to use it and pay attention to it will be an uphill battle. I hope we can make it happen.
I should have some more information about what we're doing soon. Once I have all the info, I'll post it somewhere so you can chime in or contribute.
Sounds like a plan, keep us updated!Quote:
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Let me know if I can help in anyway.
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Definitely will reach out to you guys soon. This isn't going to be a cheesy attempt for a good purpose. We're going to do a good job. Hopefully the video will be the perfect mix of interesting, exciting and terrifying.
I hope to have some more info soon and then we'll be reaching out for help.
Stupid question: Let's say I want to buy a few copies of "A Deceptively Easy Way To Die" and donate them to my local OW dive shops... What restrictions does NSS-CDS make on the use of this video, and does anyone know off hand, what would NAUI/PADI rules be regarding showing this video to OW students?
When Tracy was an active PADI OWSI, she showed it to all of her students. She says that PADI requires instructors to cover all of the required material for a class, but as far as she knows they do not restrict instructors from adding additional material.Quote:
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Mike
When Tracy was an active PADI OWSI, she showed it to all of her students. She says that PADI requires instructors to cover all of the required material for a class, but as far as she knows they do not restrict instructors from adding additional material.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschaut
Mike
The video was produced by the NSS-CDS. I would bet that everyone associated with it would like it distributed to as many divers as possible without restriction.
If you're reproducing the video, it needs to be more brutal with less narrative - film it from the OW diver's POV; strap a GoPro to his head for the vid duration...
scene 1
He's sitting in the pub discussing a cave with his mate, they laugh, discuss and pontificate; they're dive masters and know it all
scene 2
He's in the water with his mate and they okay each other after doing some pseudo OW S-drills
scene 3
they're beyond the death sign and can see the gold line in crystal clear water, tapping & flapping each others fins and giving okay signals how great the dive is
scene 4
i small-ish squeeze approaches, no problem (vid shows flashback to their diligent planning in the pub), they swim onwards
scene 5
oops, trailing diver kicks up some silt in the low-flow squeeze; the passage opens up, so they continue unaware of what's behind them
scene 6
they turn the dive and the terror begins, exacerbating each and every difference between cave cert and OW...they're light goes, did they run a line? they check their air
scene 7
the POV switches to the other divers eyes watching his mate start to panic as they both think 'what have we done'
scene 8
end sequence shows simple message - "Caves kill - get certified or STAY OUT!"
Basically, you need to scare OW divers' into not going there in the first place. It's vids like this that make you realise they'll let anyone have a blast @ OW.
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These are some very good ideas, similar to what bpcfire was sharing with me privately. Maybe you guys get together and knock this out with guidance/support from the education committee of the CDS? I happen to know the chair and he is a rockin' dude.
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Keep me in the loop on this, I'll throw a few bones into the coffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superlyte27
edited to add: pun was unintentional.
Be cool if a hollywood director who uses cave diving in their movies would help to make an improved version.
The cave community has some talented film people but folks that are used to telling stories the public pays to watch could make a huge difference.
Maybe put something in there (or a scenario) about not letting others take you in on a tour dive, even if they're qualified!
Try to scare them into being responsible for those who should know better...
I don't know if she wants her name out there yet, so if not I apologize to her, but I approached Jill Heinerth with this the day after the incident. She has agreed to help and we're doing our research now.
I'll forward you info and needs as we have it.
I would suggest a mini series of videos to cover different angles
One as shown below with the 8 scenes or so
One to highlight the dangers of guided dives
One to highlight these dangers also apply to wrecks
Perhaps one that shows a recovery (mocked) obviously.
End with closing credits with a scrolling list of divers who died in the past 10years with highlights of what rules they broke