Wow.
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Only the deepest in the Western Hemisphere, and a fleeting record at that, since other teams (in other caves) are trying to beat that record.. There are much deeper cave systems in Europe. Still an impressive feat!
Even more to the point, there are deeper systems in Europe west of the Zero meridian, but Huautla is now again the deepest in the Americas. YAY! Congratulations, Brits!Quote:
Originally Posted by FW
The book by Bill Stone and Barbara Ende was one of my favorites, ever. Couldn't put it down. I knew what was going to happen but I was holding my breath at times ( I know, never hold your breath, ha ha!).
Loved it!
Squirrel Girl, I recognized your picture. You're an amazing woman!!
Yes, she is :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracydr
Aw, shucks.
Let's go diving!
I am ready. I am thinking of coming up that way a couple days before the NSS convention to dive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl
Going in my pool while I'm grounded.:)
Or would that be stranded?
Wow! If I read the Daily Mail story correctly, they set the new depth record in Sump 9, the sump where Barbara and Bill stopped in 1994. Still no way found past that.
I'm a big fan of "Beyond The Deep", too. I can't imagine the feeling of remoteness there must be down at Sump 9, but the book gives me a sense of it. I've never been more than 5 or 6 hours from daylight in a cave, and that felt like plenty to me!
Some of the pictures from the book were amazing. I just wish there had been more. More pictures, Barbara?
My favorite seat of the pants story was when Barbara dropped the light in the rock. I think I stopped breathing for several minutes while reading that. Was Bill really that level headed or did he get a little bit upset about it?
A LITTLE upset??? A LITTLE??Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracydr
In law enforcement I learned that there is the news report of the event... There is the police report of the event... There is the participants report of the event... And there is the EVENT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl
I really love the book as well!
If you enjoyed Beyond the Deep I recommend the somewhat derivative Blind Descent, which gives a lot of interesting detail about Krubera. Also Bill Steele's Huautla: Thirty Years in One of the World's Deepest Caves.
Absolutely!!! We always say their are three sides to every story. The victim, the suspect, and the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB8CD
I read Blind Descent. Liked it but didn't find that I bit my nails like I did while reading Beyond the Deep.Quote:
Originally Posted by apitkin
Going to buy and start Bill Stone's book this afternoon. Thanks for the tip!
Do did you mistype Bill Steele? I liked his book, too. He had errors when he referred to our SA dive trip, but it was his memoir, so he can write what he remembered. I still liked it, despite the error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracydr
I sure wish that Bill Stone's f/u book came in electronic. I can't stand reading print anymore because I have to dig glasses up.Quote:
Originally Posted by apitkin
Found this article from Outside magazine I thought folks would enjoy:
http://www.nec-espeleo.org/documento..._the_Abyss.pdf
I wanted to ask, is there any reason to believe that Rolf Adams could have died from pulmonary edema? It seems like the description in James Tabor's book Blind Descent describes somebody with pulmonary edema almost "textbook style" but every reference I've found on his death lists panic as the most likely cause.
the author gave a slightly different account of Ian's death, I noticed in Blind Descent. James Tabor comments on Ian "turning off a switch" to conserve oxygen when he gets up into the airbell and is dragging his rebreather to the next area where he dives, and then forgetting to turn it back on as a possible cause of blackout,which is later discounted from examining his gear. But, this author also doesn't mention how Ian had been ill prior to his last dive, which to me, places a great deal of credence to the hypoglycemia theory as a cause of death.
I know nothing about rebreathers and since the book and tried to explain this in lay persons terms, I'm not really sure about the "on" switch for the oxygen.
Squirrel Girl, or anybody else, I'd love to understand more of the details of these events.
I'm re-reading these books and I'm amazed at some of the details I'm noticing on a second reading.
Yes, I did. I was thinking about Bill Stone and didn't catch it. Thanks for the pick up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl
I got a chance to meet this guy and he's a moron. When he says switch, think valve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracydr
As much as Bill and Barb's book over-embellished, I think that they probably played the actual details of Ian's death pretty close to the vest.
In the end, I think it's pretty cool that the reel that Ian laid when he found the way onward (and ultimately died) ended up in the hands of his son.
-Jon
The fourth photo from the top in the linked article is classic - vertical caving in green Wellies. Truly the boot for every purpose! :)
Bill Stone and Kenny Broad wrote up an accident report with consultation with doctors, regarding Ian, and published it in UWS in '94 or '95, IIRC.