Cow Upstream

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06-27-2005 02:12 PM
Tegg

Cow Upstream

Haven't posted a report in awhile... been diving to much to bother...

J and I had planned to do a night dive with N at Cow. J and I got our gas from the place that lets you run a tab and has this guy that sits outside talking about "the good ol days when cavediving was caveDIVING, and not a political football game". While we were waiting for our hamburgers to finish cooking on our newly filled tanks, N seems to still not have called. I call N and leave a message and J and I decide to just go without him. R at this same shop decides that Cow would be a good spot to "relax" after a "long day of hard work", so J and I decide to wait for him.

R sees the clock tick close to 7 and decides to lock up. We head out and head to Cow. It's still daylight out, but the gnats make it hard to tell. I tap a few squirts of OFF to my legs and start hauling my cylindrical shaped weights down to the sink.

R and J are backmounted scum, but that's a different topic for a different thread... :wink:

We get to the water and I finish gearing up. I am leading this dive, so I run my super bright primary line into the rabbits hole. I tie into the mainline and notice that the flow isn't the "normal" level. I drop down and head into the "restriction" they call it... never seem to have a problem with it when sidemount... :wink:

J gives it a shot and J sees that since the flow is down that more sand seems to have come down by the entrance. R sees this and decides the by-pass is best. J follows.

We get together in the room and start heading in... The vis is in the 70-80ft range. Not the "best", that I have seen it, but damn good compared to my "normal" caves. The flow is decent, but not enough to make the "poorman's scooter" stay taught, as usual. We "set the pitch to about 6" and cruise into the cave further and further. I always love coming to the nice clay banks in this cave. There are just few caves where it is so nice with as many layers.

Our "poorman's scooters" run of out "battery life", so we let go and start kicking. I love the part of the cave where it drops down and gets nice and black. This is really the reason I come to this cave. The cave is a nice soft black color all the way around, and the line matches. Only a few "finger" scuffs on some of the rocks and those dwindel out the farther you go back.

I look down and I am about 300psi from 1/3rds on each tank and decide we have had enough fun for now (cause I was diving wet and starting to get chills, man I wish I didn't have to send my drysuit back to DUI right at this moment.

We turn and enjoy the slower yet brisk ride out. Vis was only reduced slightly by a slight cloudyness to the water, which is normal here. We breeze by those beautiful clay banks again, and I just love slowing and checking them out. J and R head out the by-pass and I head out the "primary" restriction. I get to my reel and do a stop. Then reel out slowly taking my time. We do our slight amount of deco, and head to the surface.

We all agree at the surface that it was a nice dive and well worth the trip. The noise coming from the frogs and/or other things in those woods was quite a change from the much quieter environment of the cave below. Obviously there were alot of misquitos for them to eat... and to help us with our gear.

We get topside and J and I invite R to join us at redneck kareokee at the Silver Dollar, but R declines. So J and I head back to the trailer to get ready and head out to the Silver Dollar...

8)
06-27-2005 02:28 PM

What exactly is a "poorman's scooter?" I know it can't be a DPV, since they are expressly forbidden at Cow.

Just wondering.

Russell
06-27-2005 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sludge

What exactly is a "poorman's scooter?" I know it can't be a DPV, since they are expressly forbidden at Cow.
Just wondering.
Russell

TJ's definition of a "Poorman's Scooter":
A thick yellow rope, not string, placed in the cave where the flow is high. It is intended for the diver to pull themselves along, into the cave.
06-27-2005 03:16 PM

Okay!

I've ridden the poorman's scooter at Cow. I just didn't know what I was riding.

Russell
06-27-2005 03:17 PM
Tegg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sludge

Okay!

I've ridden the poorman's scooter at Cow. I just didn't know what I was riding.

Russell

Did ya have the light turned off when riding? I do that sometimes if I don't want to "see" what I am riding... :-D
06-27-2005 05:09 PM
Angie Reim

Hey...what and where is the Silver Dollar? I'm heading to the area next week and good public places to eat/drink are hard to find in that local.
06-27-2005 08:41 PM
Tegg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angie Reim

Hey...what and where is the Silver Dollar? I'm heading to the area next week and good public places to eat/drink are hard to find in that local.

One doesn't eat at the silver dollar and the drinks are bottled. They don't serve water, and liquor is out. Beer only.

It's a hole in the wall on the south side of Mayo off of 51. I would go there with someone, since the locals can sometimes be a bit friendly with women... :wink:
06-27-2005 09:44 PM
Angie Reim

So what you are saying is that after a few beers that even I might look good?! :-D

Bahahahahahahahaa..........(FWIW I'm mid-forties, mildly overweight, with a husband, 2 teenage daughters, 1 teenage step-daughter, 2-ex's - both sides - 3 dogs, 2 cats and more stuff going on than one person can handle).

If I caught a big fish I wouldn't know what to do with it anyway. :roll:

Thanks for the info.

Angie
06-27-2005 10:32 PM
Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)
06-28-2005 12:53 AM
rchrds

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angie Reim

2 teenage daughters, 1 teenage step-daughter

:twisted: :twisted:

Reeeeeeeaaaaaalllyyyyy.....
06-28-2005 05:09 AM
Cindy

What's up Jason, Chrissy being in the hospital throw you out of form? Don't make us spank you with a newspaper now! lol Cindy :D
06-28-2005 06:27 AM
normblitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sludge

Okay!

I've ridden the poorman's scooter at Cow. I just didn't know what I was riding.

Russell

Did ya have the light turned off when riding? I do that sometimes if I don't want to "see" what I am riding... :-D

So...are you adding this to the list that included driving a MoPed?

<g>

Norm
06-28-2005 07:42 AM
Angie Reim

Quote:

Originally Posted by rchrds

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angie Reim

2 teenage daughters, 1 teenage step-daughter

:twisted: :twisted:

Reeeeeeeaaaaaalllyyyyy.....

Yeah but I raised them 'right'. Good ol' gal right. Sorry 'sweetie' they'd tear you up...

Bad boy, bad! :lol:
06-28-2005 07:51 AM
Angie Reim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)

Yeah I've been getting all sorts of 'older' women stuff in the mail of late. At first I was horrified until I realized that the stuff targeting girlies held no interest for me. The MORE magazine looks pretty good and getting a feature is very cool. Congratulations! I haven't seen it, but would like to.

I agree. We have our charms. It's like the difference between privates and generals. :wink:
06-28-2005 07:52 AM
Jay

I believe 'Poor Man's Scooter' was coined by Woody Jasper or one of that crowd.

Jay
06-28-2005 08:41 AM
Tegg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay

I believe 'Poor Man's Scooter' was coined by Woody Jasper or one of that crowd.

Jay

That would be correct.

I think I've been hanging out with to many "old" cavedivers lately... :D
06-28-2005 08:44 AM
Signal 20

Re: Cow Upstream

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegg

J gives it a shot and J sees that since the flow is down that more sand seems to have come down by the entrance. R sees this and decides the by-pass is best. J follows.

I would like to add that the next day when we went back to Cow I got through that restriction in my "terrible" backmounted self even carrying a stage :-D
06-28-2005 09:32 AM
normblitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angie Reim

Hey...what and where is the Silver Dollar? I'm heading to the area next week and good public places to eat/drink are hard to find in that local.

One doesn't eat at the silver dollar and the drinks are bottled. They don't serve water, and liquor is out. Beer only.

It's a hole in the wall on the south side of Mayo off of 51. I would go there with someone, since the locals can sometimes be a bit friendly with women... :wink:

A while back, I went with an MSDT pal of mine to Ginnie...we passed by the joint on 441 just north of the SF river bridge, and I mentioned to him that might be a quaint little place to "water" on the way back...

(He's from New-o-lins) ...he dead-panned, "Nah, not enough windows to bail out of WHEN the fight breaks out".

nhb
06-28-2005 09:34 AM
normblitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)

WOOHOO!

Just say NO to Jessica Simpson, et al ...
Norm

Comfort, not Speed
06-28-2005 12:19 PM

CDF Social Bikini Contest!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)

Cindy and Angie ... You got me thinking about a new contest for the CDF Social on July 2nd. Maybe we should setup a "more" category for the CDF Social Bikini Contest. Are you willing to enter? Talk about magazine covers and articles. It's a great possibility for a future issue of the UWS! You don’t have to worry about the big fish to enter this. :)
06-28-2005 01:04 PM
normblitch

Re: CDF Social Bikini Contest!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)

Cindy and Angie ... You got me thinking about a new contest for the CDF Social on July 2nd. Maybe we should setup a "more" category for the CDF Social Bikini Contest. Are you willing to enter? Talk about magazine covers and articles. It's a great possibility for a future issue of the UWS! You don’t have to worry about the big fish to enter this. :)

Hot DAMN!

I'm your fashion paparazzi for THIS!! Page 3 gals, move OVER!

nhb
06-28-2005 03:23 PM
crazyduck

:clapper
I make a comment and- :hang

Norm- work your magic :lol:

Could we have a caving calender in the works?

Andrew
06-28-2005 07:22 PM
Angie Reim

Re: CDF Social Bikini Contest!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)

Cindy and Angie ... You got me thinking about a new contest for the CDF Social on July 2nd. Maybe we should setup a "more" category for the CDF Social Bikini Contest. Are you willing to enter? Talk about magazine covers and articles. It's a great possibility for a future issue of the UWS! You don’t have to worry about the big fish to enter this. :)

Oh Lordy!.......hmmm......ummmmmm. Chip I appreciate the spirit with which you made this offer. I think I know you well enough to know that it doesn't mean what it sounds like. Or.....it means all the various things that it sounds like - but then I'm probably thinking too hard. Anyway, I am amused but 'Generals' don't do that. :lol: Besides...the competition is just a bit stiff at Ginnie. Best to channel/dangle my 'charms' in such a manner that they would be better appreciated . Like a 'Don't she fill out that ------- brand drysuit nice Contest'. It takes the right twist o' mind to appreciate that! :wink:
06-28-2005 07:49 PM
Cindy

I'm really sorry about the Hijack, I was really just trying to tease Jason and show off to Angie. :-D It sounds like you guys had a great dive. I have back mounted buddies that can keep up with me all the time. Except when I dig!
Chip, I'll do the photo if I get to pick my body double! Cindy :)
06-28-2005 09:59 PM
Angie Reim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

I'm really sorry about the Hijack, I was really just trying to tease Jason and show off to Angie. :-D It sounds like you guys had a great dive. I have back mounted buddies that can keep up with me all the time. Except when I dig!
Chip, I'll do the photo if I get to pick my body double! Cindy :)

Hey...I like that idea better! :-) I could have a lot of fun with it. I also now know what it means to hijack a thread. Oops. Sorry. Guess I was wishing I were diving. Perhaps next weekend. Sigh.....
06-29-2005 06:27 AM
normblitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angie Reim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy

Hey Angie, we old gals have our charms!
I just put two photos into a album for you. A more magazine cover (it's a magazine for middle aged women and the article on my cave diving. It's the first time a womens magazine has featured a cave diver. Richard Hicks from the NACD gave them my name. It was very cool doing this. I thought you might enjoy seeing it. Cindy ;)

Yeah I've been getting all sorts of 'older' women stuff in the mail of late. At first I was horrified until I realized that the stuff targeting girlies held no interest for me. The MORE magazine looks pretty good and getting a feature is very cool. Congratulations! I haven't seen it, but would like to.

I agree. We have our charms. It's like the difference between privates and generals. :wink:

While I WAS initially horrified when I got my "invitation" to join AARP, I will readily admit that I can be a SLUT for a 10% discount...<g>

Norm
06-29-2005 06:29 AM
normblitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyduck

:clapper
I make a comment and- :hang

Norm- work your magic :lol:

Could we have a caving calender in the works?

Andrew

"The Ladies of the Springs"

already got a story board workin' .... ;>))

Norm
06-29-2005 03:52 PM

Re: Cow Upstream

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegg

I drop down and head into the "restriction" they call it... never seem to have a problem with it when sidemount... :wink:

J gives it a shot and J sees that since the flow is down that more sand seems to have come down by the entrance. R sees this and decides the by-pass is best. J follows.
8)

Joe ... On my Upstream Cow dive on Saturday 5/21/05 I also noticed more sand in the second restriction. I had to take off and push both of my bailout tanks in front of me. :)