*** New cart for Jug Hole ***

OK, I know that it is about time. As I stated on another thread, I would build a cart for Jug Hole. I just got done painting it today. I will install the front steering axle and tire/wheels on Monday after work and bring it home.

I will not be going to cave county until Thanksgiving and I am sure that some divers would like to use this cart before then. If anyone is headed that way from the S. Florida (Deerfield Beach) area and want to haul, this thing up there, contact me to make arrangements. It is big and heavy, so a little VW will not haul it!

I have dedicated this cart to the memory of our friend and dive buddy "Tim Owens"

If anyone would like to donate to the building of the cart, you can send donations to my PayPal account at - dsix3 at comcast dot net

Awesome! If anyone can get it to Pinellas this week, I am heading to jug friday.

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Originally Posted by Dsix36

I have dedicated this cart to the memory of our friend and dive buddy "Tim Owens"

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... complete with Hello Kitty decals, I assume?

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Originally Posted by Slüdge

... complete with Hello Kitty decals, I assume?

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Not this time. I am actually being serious for once.

Now we just need a pony.

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....If anyone would like to donate to the building of the cart, you can send donations to my PayPal account at - dsix3 at comcast dot net

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I'll get it started. $20 bucks when you post a cart picture will be sent to the paypal account. Thanks for helping fellow divers out!!

Here is the last pic. The paint was not dry enough for final assembly.

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Nice Don, thanks. To bad you were not done before I had to downsize my ride.

Nice cart and thanks for helping out fellow divers. Payment completed.

Hope some other divers can reach in and pull out a twenty of pocket cotton.

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Done. Andrew Jackson is on the way.

I got impatient. I went to work this AM and finished bolting it together and brought it home. Here it is next to my lovely vehicle. :roll:

I am hoping this one holds up better. It is definitely made from thicker metal and the tires are both larger and run-flat.

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I almost forgot to show everyone the most important part:

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Very nice work Dsix. Contribution sent last night...

Mine is on the way too. If you get more than you need, please send the rest to the NFSA.

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Originally Posted by FW

Mine is on the way too. If you get more than you need, please send the rest to the NFSA.

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Will do! This thing still needs a ride up there.

Don, the cart looks great! Thank you from Tim's family and myself for the dedication. We really have some amazing friends.

Really a good job Don,
I think if you park the cart by the Ranger's bldg with a little lock box marked: " donations will be appreciated "
It won't take long for your efforts to be honored. A heavy cable with a good padlock would also thwart thieves & provide a means to secure it. Even if I don't need the cart I will still donate. Please pm me with your Address & I will send you a ck.
Jack e.

$20.00 on the way via PayPal.

Thanks Don!

Mike

I'm going up from Melbourne towards the end of the month if that helps. Be happy to bring it from here...

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Originally Posted by diveconjeff

I'm going up from Melbourne towards the end of the month if that helps. Be happy to bring it from here...

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I will stay in touch.

Darn fine work, sir! Twenty bucks sent.

Thanks Don! Money sent.

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The new cart, dedicated to the memory of Tim Owen's, has arrived! Complete with new chain and lock. The combination is the same. Thanks Don.

KUDOS to all involved in getting in up there. Don, WOW! Great work, thank you!

I got a little impatient and went ahead and drove up and delivered the cart. In my last minute hurry to go, I forgot to grease the wheel bearings. If anyone up there near the cart has a grease gun and feels like doing this, I would appreciate it. I had intentionally not done this in case it was going to be in the back of someones SUV and didn't want to make any kind of mess in their vehicle.

Like Diverlee posted, the combination is the same as the old lock. I do not want to post the combination on a public forum. You can contact any NFSA (North Florida Springs Alliance) board member for the combination or Wayne at Amigos Dive Center.

I would like to thank every one who make donations to this cart. I am donating my time, and my boss was gracious enough to donate the metal that I used. I will be sending the excess funds to the NFSA for their continued causes. If you are not already a member of the NFSA, now might be a good time to join up ($15 isn't much money).

Thanks, Don!

Dave

I will be down that way in a couple weeks. Can I leave a donation with Wayne. Our plan is to stay by there and dive the systems right nearby. While I am not yet "full" or sidemount and I didn't know Tim personally but a lot of folks around here did and speak highly of him..... That's good enought for me.

The cart is so awesome! Thank you so much for building something so great!

For those of thus that have not been to jug as of yet, how does the cart system work. Obviously it's locekd up and Ill have to ask about the code when the time comes. But is it lucky enough to be a bring your gear to the site, walk the cart back and dive system. Or is it not that altruisitic, where if you're not the first ones at the site you sol on the cart. I think most cavers are contientious of their fellow divers and would do it the first way, but just interested in how its worked out in the past.

Checked out the cart today - Tracy and I were taking a day off from diving and walked out to Jug. That is a rugged piece of work! Looks about 10 times tougher than the old one.

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For those of thus that have not been to jug as of yet, how does the cart system work. Obviously it's locekd up and Ill have to ask about the code when the time comes. But is it lucky enough to be a bring your gear to the site, walk the cart back and dive system. Or is it not that altruisitic, where if you're not the first ones at the site you sol on the cart. I think most cavers are contientious of their fellow divers and would do it the first way, but just interested in how its worked out in the past.

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When I walk my gear to the water, I'm half suited up and ready to get wet. I'm not walking the cart all the way back in my dry suit just in case someone else comes along. That being said, a lot of times I will walk out to the dive site before gearing up to check conditions first. If the cart were there and a team were in the water, I'd probably snag the cart, load my gear up and haul it back to the water and unload my gear. That way when the first team exited, they could take the cart back to the parking lot to unload their gear. A courteous first team would then return the cart back out to the dock for us to unload our gear after our dive.

Just my two cents.

Cheers,
Jeff

That's how I would do it also!

So far, I have never been to the Jug at the same time as another team.

The last time I went to Jug, we were the first team in the water. When we were exitting, there were two groups totalling about 10 people gearing up to get in.

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The last time I went to Jug, we were the first team in the water. When we were exitting, there were two groups totalling about 10 people gearing up to get in.

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I hope you were a good sport and gave them a full report of how hideously awful the conditions were so they needn't bother getting in! ;)

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A courteous first team would then return the cart back out to the dock for us to unload our gear after our dive.

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Those darn exiting teams get all the perks....

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Those darn exiting teams get all the perks....

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This "exiting team" already deadheaded it from the spring to the parking lot - it's only fair for the first team to return the favor. :lifter

Just thought I'd ask. I've never been and don't know the walk. I assume it's nothing like going to Buford. I'm just cavern so we'll be in singles when we go most likely anyway, so I probably won't use the cart, but wanted a heads up. In a perfect world everybody would bring the cart back to the gate from the site to be courteous to their fellow diver, but I know I sure as heck probably wouldn't want to. Just wanted to make sure when we go I don't create a faux pas and be the jerk that didn't bring the cart back before jumping in.

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Just thought I'd ask. I've never been and don't know the walk. I assume it's nothing like going to Buford. I'm just cavern so we'll be in singles when we go most likely anyway, so I probably won't use the cart, but wanted a heads up. In a perfect world everybody would bring the cart back to the gate from the site to be courteous to their fellow diver, but I know I sure as heck probably wouldn't want to. Just wanted to make sure when we go I don't create a faux pas and be the jerk that didn't bring the cart back before jumping in.

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It is an easy walk, even with a single, nothing like Buford. Just a little too far with doubles, for most people.

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Originally Posted by FW

It is an easy walk, even with a single, nothing like Buford. Just a little too far with doubles, for most people.

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+1

Half the walk is on a boardwalk and the other half is over a cleared trail (albeit with lots of roots). The walk is between 1/4 and 1/2 mile depending on how long your gait is :)

Cheers,
Jeff

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Originally Posted by FW

It is an easy walk, even with a single, nothing like Buford. Just a little too far with doubles, for most people.

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Yep, nothing like Buford! I've hardly ever had anyone shoot at me at Jug! :D

(Note to self...when sweetie with a rifle says "Dear (deer?), would you carry this lil ole deer head about a hunnert yards attaway fer me? And walk real slow-like" DON'T! He's still mad over that "thing" )

The cart is an excellent piece of work and I am in no way dissing it but if anyone wanted to have their own cart Lowes has a very similar garden cart rated for 1000 pound load (I've tested mine with 300 pound load and it worked well but I wouldn't want to pull much more than that very far). It normally sells for $108 but is frequently on sale for $88 or $98.
John Ploegert

I believe the one before was one of those, from Lowes or Home Depot, and fell apart. Didin't stand up to the ware and tear of the trail.

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The cart is an excellent piece of work and I am in no way dissing it but if anyone wanted to have their own cart Lowes has a very similar garden cart rated for 1000 pound load (I've tested mine with 300 pound load and it worked well but I wouldn't want to pull much more than that very far). It normally sells for $108 but is frequently on sale for $88 or $98.
John Ploegert

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Don ain't friggn Lowes. that cart will last a lifetime. Kudos to you, buddy.

I have paced the trail beginning at the first wood plank you step across after the parking lot to the last step you make at the benches before passing out. I have done this 6 times (3 separate trips) and my last one yesterday was pretty consistent with the last 2 trips (4 walks): ~1450' / 5280' = 0.27 miles

My gait is 40 steps per 100' on varying terrain, 44 through brush (where I have to occasionally lift my knees higher to clear obstacles), and 38 on sidewalks/roads with no hills. If I have the presence of mind, I will endeavor to bring a measuring wheel for the next jaunt I make it out there.

***Of course, it matters not in the slightest what your gait is...the distance will be unchanged, but the speed at which you arrive at the end and the amount of energy used can be quite different. Pulling a 300 pound cart vs sprinting unencumbered with just running shoes and a smile gives wildly varying times, but same distance.

Maybe we need a cart upgrade... http://3dprintingindustry.com/2014/1...rinted-esherpa

:)

How about a mule?

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