I only have the online map, which does not show line placement. Does the Hill 400 Line end near the end of Roller Coaster?
Trying to plan my next dive any help would be appreciated.
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I only have the online map, which does not show line placement. Does the Hill 400 Line end near the end of Roller Coaster?
Trying to plan my next dive any help would be appreciated.
Goes to the Hillier tunnel (one line) just after the bats and then jumps onto the Double Domes jump (its about a 12inch long jump) about 50ft from Goldline.
Thanks James.Quote:
Originally Posted by jj1987
I wasn't sure which way the line ran.
Just to make sure I understand the Hill 400 line runs continuously through the Hillier tunnel and ends at the tunnel that heads for the Double Domes?Quote:
Originally Posted by jj1987
That is correct. Once you make the left off the gold line it runs one line all the way to the tunnel that (left) goes to the Double Domes and (right) goes back to the main line (about 50'). The jump from the end can be no jump, if someone has hooked the double dome line over the rock where the Hillier tunnel ends, or a few feet.
Have fun
There are some fun woopty whoos on that line make sure you budget some extra time and gas. Great circuit though.
Hope you not referring to the gouges in the Hillier Tunnel. looked like someone was digging for gold in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by sea2summit
The hillier used to be a lot tighter, that's for certain. Still very pretty, though. What dive are you planning? If youre worried about enough gas to go full way around, you can also look at the shortcut tunnel...but you would miss the hillier.
It looks like that damage was done intentionally to me. It was done just after DEMA 3 years ago(3 or 4 ??) coincidental with other damage intentionally done in other caves.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceman
There is no way that damage could have been done accidentally IMO.
I've often thought about bringing a trowel or something similar and trying to smooth over so bad areas in caves that don't really self heal. I have not though for fear of making things worse. Anyone tried something like this? Other than the "pro" job at Cow I don't think I have seen it discussed.
Yes, I did that in the roller coaster tunnel and simply smoothed all the obvious hand plants, scooter shroud marks, and fin marks a couple years ago and it worked quite well, i dont think it would work so well for the deeper gouges that are in the hillier. BillQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben M
Plus, Bill and I tried to do that at The Elbow at JB, but the gouges ended up being a lot deeper than we had assumed, so we pretty much left it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wingman
Bill Huth and I tried some of this on the roller coaster @ Devil's a few years ago. It was a lot of work with very little return. After we did it you could hardly tell we had been there trying to fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben M
A trowel and a little hand dusting worked very well a few years back when some chump wrote "Eric Clapton" on the floor of the White Room. Some friends and I spent some time in there redoing the floor, afterwards you couldn't tell it was ever there. I guess it works in some places and not in others, but I must say that the writing was only finger deep so to speak....
Safe diving,
Rich
I plan to take Hill 400 to the end then check out Double Domes. I am bringing 2 stages. 1 for a buddy bottle, the other for extra gas.
There is a more direct route....Quote:
Originally Posted by ScubaRob
I know, I just want to see all of Hill 400. Double Domes is a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Wyatt
You could take the rollercoaster to the crossover to hiller to double domes, then on the way back take hiller to hill 400 back to goldline. Less work doing it that way IMO
Somehow a thread like this takes all of the romance ( in the renaissance usage of the word) out of cave diving. Just swim the bloody thing. Revel in the surprises. Feel that frisson as you suddenly wonder if you're really where you thought you were. Go enjoy a touch of the unexpected, for chrissakes.
Go to Jackson Blue, talk about a cave to get lost in. The map is a good guidline for the mainline and that is about it. Had a plane today to checkout an area and after tying in to jump the plane went to **** becaue it was one T after the other after the other (which where not on the map). It was fun though we circled back on ourselves about 3 different times. I had to make sure I brought extra cookies after my second day diving there.
I think you're right. My question was answered in the 1st reply. I still enjoyed the exchange of information though. Since I've been cave diving I've been trying to systematically cover all the cave I can. I have seen plenty, but still have a lot left to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by aainslie
I'd like to thank everyone for helping me out on my dive plan.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by aainslie
Safe diving,
Rich
LOL, I can always count on you Andrew !!!!! :clapperQuote:
Originally Posted by aainslie
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Originally Posted by Rich
Who in the F*%# would do that?!? Honestly! It boggles the mind.
+2 ... just go smell the roses ....Quote:
Originally Posted by aainslie
'don't go off in an area you don't know, study and ask questions...'
'don't take all the mystery out of it by studying and asking questions...'
make up y'all's minds.