I just stumbled on this light on Ebay. Bought for abt $650.
I have a lot of HID lights and I am old. Really really don't need. But I couldn't resist.
Any offers?
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I just stumbled on this light on Ebay. Bought for abt $650.
I have a lot of HID lights and I am old. Really really don't need. But I couldn't resist.
Any offers?
I was actually looking into buying this one new. Any info on how long it has been owned and the prior owner's use?
Seller said it was new.
And it looks mint in original box with all paperwork.
I see no signs of any use at all or even being taken out of box.
Originally post Ebay info where I won item.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1156
So have you fired it up yet?
Just wondering if you have charged and fired it up not that I do not believe your description.
That is a good price just wondering what you were thinking?
Thanks,
JCG
I may go by Light Monkey next Friday to pick up some repairs. May show it to them.
Or hell! I may keep for myself and use it for my next dive.
It could very likely be stolen goods. There has been a lot of dive gear fraud up in Quebec. Not that you could prove/disprove it, but it may be good to keep the seller's contact information.
http://thedecostop.com/forums/showth...ghlight=quebec
Cheers,Quote:
Originally Posted by DiveRightInScuba
Jeff
Hmmm: I have a creepy feelingQuote:
Originally Posted by icestac
So I don't mind checking: but how do I check to see it it's stolen?
Whats the worry,, The seller has a 110+ positive transactions 100%, and you are at arms length in the transaction w/ no prior knowledge, that it was stolen gear, as the sell may not have known also, and the speculation "IF" or "COULD BE" , is BS...
There still some Honest sellers and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, IF Quebec, has a lot of dive gear fraud ITS up to them and the locals to correct it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT WE need to be aware of that when buying, and do the best to watch out for our self and fellow divers
, Dive the light,, use the light and or sell the light and enjoy and get a good nights sleep because you never know when a Canadian Mountie will ride his horse in your front door
One problem with eBay is identity theft. I tried to buy a scooter from a dealer with impeccable credentials. Turns out the scooter didn't even exist, and someone had hacked into the dealer's account.
TRUE SHNIT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! buyer beware<<<< >>>>> caveat emptor!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like you're already on the TDS thread, so that is your best bet. I don't know that there is any real proof, and I'd say you're in the clear, but I'd help the dealers try to track down the seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puttzer
I don't think the issue is that the buyer is in any trouble, but more so that he has an opportunity to help out some of the members of our community who have been taken advantage of. Just remember the "do unto others as you would wish them to do unto you". I think if you had been ripped off, you'd be grateful if others helped you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bottomtime
Cheers,
Jeff
"If honesty's such a good policy, how come I'm out a cap pistol?" - Opie Taylor
I agree the "golden rule"Quote:
Originally Posted by icestac
shoot first, ask questions later,,,,oopps,, make sure only one is standing to tell what really happened,,,,,, just kidding,,,,REALLY....
BUT WE need to be aware, and do the best to watch out for our self and fellow divers,,,
The only way to prove an item is stolen is with serial numbers, or some owner-applied number / mark. If the item is non-serialized and/or the vendor did not keep a record of the serial number that was shipped to the fraudster, then everyone is spinning their wheels (at least as far as this particular item is concerned).
The purchaser is most likely safe in any event. The worst that could happen is that his light is seized as evidence, but again, for that to happen, proof would have to exist that his light was the exact same light fraudulently obtained from the vendor. In order to make a case for receiving stolen property, it must be proved that the receiver knew that the item was stolen, or should have reasonably suspected that it was. While I think he got a great deal on the light, I could hardly suspect that it was stolen based on the facts and circumstances known at the time of purchase (and I'm a reasonable person) :-)
Which brings me to a point I constantly make: Record the serial numbers of all the cool stuff in your house, especially firearms. It is the only way you will ever get that stuff back if it is ever stolen. Keep a copy at home and a copy at work (in case the home-copy is stolen too). In a past life I've recovered a fair amount of stolen gear, but it can't be recovered if you don't have those numbers.
Sadly, I don't think the lights have serial numbers. I think the best outcome is to simply provide more information to the dealers in an effort to help track the fraudsters down. I am a reasonable person and I have very little doubt in my mind that this is anything other than stolen property... but only after knowing the context of dealer pricing and the thread on TDS.
OK, I'll give you $100 for this stolen property!!! I'm kidding of course...lol
I had this happen to me once when I got a computer off of E-bay. Got a call from a Detective in Denver and he said this lady sold about 200 of them to people and some on Gov contracts. As it turns out I found out the one she sold me was subject to a recall and got my money back before the call from the Detective. She was in a lot of trouble.
Seller told he bought it on some sales list: sounded like a Canadian version of Craig's list.
Stolen goods are a potential problem with anything we buy on Ebay, flea markets, garage sales, Craigs list, ....
This may be legit or not, we'll never know
I'm suppose to visit Light Monkey next week (for other light repairs) and I'll show it to them: make sure it's OK and not tampered with.
Then I'll sell it to whomever offers me a profit.
I might take it with me at PSSP Dec 4th and compare it to my 21 watt HID.
Email me if you want to make me an offer now or want updates after I show it to Light Monkey.
so first the disclaimer: to not giving legal advice here unless being a lawyer ................... so i claim this as not giving advise.
anyhow here are my two cents: As of my knowledge if you did not know that the goods were stolen when you purchased them then they will not prosecute you but if proven you knew before you will be prosecuted as a federal crime. Either way the goods will be returned to the original owner. In short you can never get ownership of stolen goods.
I college I bought a flute at a pawn shop for a ridiculously low price. When I showed it to my then-girlfriend, she recognized it as one that had been stolen from a classmate of hers. I went to the girl and offered to sell it to her for what I had in it (insurance had already bought her a new flute, but there's the sentimentality and all), but she declined. So I sold it to a guy, and then I got a call from the police. I had to get the flute, give the guy his money back, and take it downtown. I was promptly arrested, but I pulled the receipt from the pawn shop out and charges were immediately dropped. I had to give the flute to the cop and go to the pawn shop where the guy refunded my money. But I had made $165 profit selling it, so the way I see it, I was out $165 for trying to be a nice guy.
Oh, the sordid lives of wind instrumentalists - pawn shops, stolen property....you never hear any stories like that in the strings section! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Slüdge
Mike
We divided the orchestra up into two groups - string players and musicians! :rollguy
I thought it was percussionists and musicians...:)
There must be better pawn shops in the South - the only musical instruments I ever saw in the ones I've been in were electric guitars and drum kits.
Mike
Compared the LED to my HID tonight and I wouldn't part with the LED.
great light!!
Your loss, my gain :-)
No problem, I found one that was a lot less "hot" :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Puttzer