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But I did it.
Those of you out there that have dove with Jeno Beno will know what I'm talking about. ( JENOS SAC RATE) She's got gills some where hidden away on her. I've dove at least 50 times but never came close to her. Well last saturday I matched her for the first time. It was to say the least a shock.
Now to see If I can repeat the feat this weekend.
Take her smokes away and she would be unbeatable by everyone! Cindy
I've come close to matching her in PSI used, except that she was in LP85's and I was in LP 95's!
Mike
A couple of comments (general, not thread or people specific).
1. I think that smokers will have lower SAC rates than non-smokers. My hypothesis is that their bodies have become used to breathing less oxygen (say 19% instead of 21%) on a day to day basis - put them on a CCR and their O2 consumption will be 5% lower than the nonsmoker. Put them in open circuit and you'll see a similar result. Heavier smokers - lower SAC rate. There also may be a built up tolerance to CO or CO2 that allows smokers to skip breath without ill effects, I've not finished thinking about that one yet.
2. The more you concentrate on the "numbers" of your SAC rate during a dive the worse it will be. Relax, dive, turn on thirds, enjoy yourself. If you need more gas, bring a stage, no big deal. You'll learn how to be streamlined while carrying a stage or two, and the numbers will get better as you relax more.
3. Most important, have fun - that's what it's about!
Mark
Post when you can match her SAC rate WHILE SINGING and I'll be impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by fghray1
I know my sac rate went to hell when I quit smoking. I am now a air hog:smt086Quote:
Originally Posted by mfascuba
my sac is lousy and I admit it
just bring stages :P
Where are you diving this weekend?
Is this a general (but off topic) question or something that should have went in a PM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Jackson
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Originally Posted by DA Aquamaster
Is this a general (but off topic) question or something that should have went in a PM?
LOL :)
Its an open forum, conversations meander.
Yup! Kinda mimics real life around the dive site/shop, eh? :yawinkle:Quote:
Originally Posted by SuPrBuGmAn
Soooo, I can see it now, first you get a intro cave card, then apprentice, then full cave, then sidemount, then DPV, Normoxic trimix, full trimix, then advanced Lucky Strike. Seems OK to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mfascuba
I need a 2nd stage reg. adapter for my hooka.
Try a Poseidon metal 2nd stage. They can tolerate the smoke from hooka a lot better than the plastic ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webmaster
I bet Mike can hooka you up with an adapter.
I do recall reading that smoking enhances SAC rate. reduces O2 to the brain and increases CO2, but enhances SAC! I know that my wife's SAC rate is half that of mine and she smokes while I don't. She doesn't cave dive, but in open water rec diving she used to take an al40 cause that way we'd both get back on the boat with similar psi left! Then I got wise and strapped the al80 on her with a long hose on her octo! heh-heh now our bottom times are long enough to make the captain mad!
-skip
That corset should help your SAC! As a full-fledged Suthin' Belle in a former life (hoop skirts and all), I can attest to not being able to breathe in those *** **** things!Quote:
Originally Posted by skip
we want pictures!Quote:
Originally Posted by sskasser
Oh HELL NO! :rollguy There's no one on here that I dislike that much! :rollguyQuote:
Originally Posted by OFG-1
I just quit and was hoping my sac was gonna improve,screwed again. Been almost 7 weeks yaaaaa.
Richard
You will be better off in the long run!Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Atyeo
Besides, I never smoked, and my SAC is pretty good ;)
Pretty good? Yeah, and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. is a little bit redneck.Quote:
Originally Posted by FW
You could probably dive doubled Spare Airs and still not turn on gas before me! :smt081
Even with Spare Airs he'd probably side mount them rather than double them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sskasser
WJH
p.s. Go ahead and quit that nasty habit, Jean. Apparently you can afford the small drop in SAC. And man, what you could afford with the money you'd save!
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Originally Posted by sskasser
I FULLY support a world where most women willingly wear corsets :)
Awww, you're SO supportive, sweetie! :smt043:smt043 I'm certain it's only a matter of time!Quote:
Originally Posted by eramosakarst
Ed:
Manatee tomorrow (Saturday).
Well , thanks for the support all...!!!!
I do need to quit. (sigh)
And I don't really care what it does to my SAC... (EEK)
Beano
P.S. If I don't , Cindy will continue to BEAT ON ME !!! (Waaaaaaahhhhhhh)
Well, tomorrow morning I'm doing the same thing as last week. I drank 2 cups of coffee ( I usually drink 4) Eat a cinnamon roll, ( I never eat in the morning) take my fiber and vitamins. Sound like a formula for success.
skip the coffee alltogether and go for the diet coke.
Gross. I'd just as soon drink pee.Quote:
Originally Posted by john
?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Slüdge
(er , are you a Pepsi person OR a non-diet person OR a non-soda person?)
Beano
Yes, I have taste buds.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeandiver
This is getting scary. I did the same thing and came withing 150 PSI of jean again. But I did have a little more task loading than her on this dive.
NEED MORE cinnamon roles. Maybe if I eat 2 I can beat her SAC.:smt081
WOo hoooo! Congrats! You're getting there!! :clapper
BUT!!! If Jean quits smoking...NOBODY gets to give her a hard time about SAC....deal? DEAL! :) (you can do it, Jeano!)
And how was the dive?
Fer sure fer sure! Just think of all the carbon monoxide and numerous other poisons that will no longer be flowing through her blood stream. . . at high partial pressures!Quote:
Originally Posted by sskasser
Go Jean.
WJH
Ok, Curiosity is getting the better of me. What is this mystical sac rate you speak of? Mine's decent, but inquiring minds want to know...
I think it's time to invite Jeano up to JB for a SAC rate smackdown!
With the flow up it would be a real hoot! I think Edd will be selling quite a few scooters this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slüdge
A bit weird, but I must defer to your culinary experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slüdge
How bad is the flow right now? Say, compared to ginnie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister481
Thanks,
Chris
That is a hard comparison. JB seems to be more, but it is probably because there are not an many convenient hand holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmalinowski
Hey Jean if you really want to quit the chantix worked for me really well and i have been smoking for 40 years. 7 weeks tomorrow. Richard
I heard the chantix has worked really well for people. I smoked for about 10 years and stopped 12 years ago (wow, seems like yesterday). Good luck to whomever tries to quit. It was really hard for me, but I didn't have the chantix and stuff that they have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Atyeo
Chris
bob b quit using that, and he was definitely a hard-core smoker for years.
I suspect I know what you mean, but "quit using that" might mean the Chantix wasn't working, so he quit using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyDuck
The pain that goes along with having an artery blocked 99% works pretty good too! Have not wanted a cigarette since last July 6. Although I hope others find an easier means of quitting, ya gotta go with what works :yawinkle:
I used zyban
quitting was hardest thing I ever did
busted! bob b quit smoking while using chantix.
I quit cold turkey. The Doc telling you that you are going to die will give you motivation to stick it out. Hardest and best thing I ever did. The last time I went to the Doc. they said that my lungs looked and sounded like I never smoked. That is a beautiful thing.
:armybravo:smt041:goodman:
Mega kudos to all of you who have quit! Nicely done! And you smell so sweet now!
If you're thinking about using Chantix, have fun with the wierd dreams. CRAZY!
I've quit three times with Chantix... Two of those I was sleeping. ;-) LOL