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for California Pacific diving. Does anyone want to sell the <<new and improved>> DUI 400g Thinsulate (with the stretch panels) or a Bare Med/Lg thinsulate under?
The old DUI prevented me from reaching valves, bending knees and arms, and other things.
'Also looking for DUI TLS350 M/L. No zip seals necessary.
PM me if you have the goods! I'll be in cave country over thanksgiving.
Best,
Barbara
I can't be of much help, but :clapper on an interesting title.
Artic made by 4th Element:
http://www.fourthelement.com/dry_arctic.php
You can layer it as needed and it allows for more flexibility. Like you I could barely reach valves when diving OC with a 400, ditched it in favor of the 4th Element undergarments and have not looked back.
Dive safe,
Celia
Have you checked the DUI website for their imperfect sales? I bought a DUI 400g there for $100. As it turned out, I didn't like it, but I was able to resell it for the same price easily. There are some very good buys there on things that have only cosmetic blemishes.
I would personally recommend the santi undergarments before anything dui
i've never seen anything so flexible and well thought out. and less expensive as well :)
For what it's worth, I have the Santi, the DUI Thinsulate, and the DUI Polarstretch. I agree the Santi is well made and well thought out. But, the Polarstretch works much better for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiteHedded
Fourth Element and Santi rather than DUI any day of the week and in any conditions.
I have to agree on the Polarstretch, it's a pain sliding the suit over the Polarstretch, but it's sure nice and toasty, plus very flexible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky1948
The 200/400G slides into a suit well, but the flexibility is hampered.
Personally, I like the Whites MK3, which is built very similarly to the Santi but is significantly less expensive. It has far more mobility than the DUI 400g -- I don't know about the new DUI undergarment, but it appears to be built similarly to the White's.
i hear the stretch panels on the new dui suit are noticeably less warm than the rest of the suit....if that matters to anyone
I hope you find the dive gear you need. I must admit though, I opened this thread after reading the title.."Freezing woman needs---" ...I thought you were asking for something else. I should be spanked.
Hi Celia,
Yes! I have a set of the 4th element arctic. They work in cave country (70-72F) but not too well in Monterey (45-50F). I have tried them with an Irish knit wool sweater, but I'm just cold blooded.
The DUIs without the stretchy gussets were hell. But I need to get some thinsulate or some kind of insulate on my great vessels or I'll be back to my Weezle Extreme. <<'Wishing I hadn't sold it>>!
Best to you,
Barbara
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Originally Posted by amphipod06
Thanks; I wish it were funny. Cold is awful. My vision of hell!
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Originally Posted by icestac
Yes, thanks....I check it frequently and, like you, purchased both the 200- and 400 G. No money lost, but no warmth gained....Quote:
Originally Posted by LCF
Best,
Barbara
Thank you both! they are on my list. I'll try them when in cave country over thanksgiving. If I overheat, I'll buy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky1948
In the frigid Pacific, every little bit helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by LiteHedded
Best,
Barbara
LOL! Be careful what you ask for; there is a female cave diver on this list who cracks an educated lash!
Cheers,
Barbara
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Originally Posted by caver
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Originally Posted by cavedivingwoman
If you *really* want to stay warm, and also dive in FL, this is what you need: http://www.golemgear.com/p-354-q-ves...nt-system.aspx
Listening to what you say, I didn't see exact temps, it seems like you might have cold tolerances somewhere around mine. I find 4th E Arctics nice and comfy for cave country too. Do you think DUI 400gr would be a good choice? I think it sucks. I find it so cold already in the 50F waters, and if the new version with stretch panels has colder areas, well suck-more.
I was interested in the 4th SubXero but their sizing sucks (very sucky today) for women. Would have to buy humongous tops to get the jacket over hips, and somewhat larger than desired pants too if not stick-shaped. Mk3 interests me too but seems so much more bulky than Santi that I would be willing to pay the difference both in money/lead if there was def proof the stuff works.
Does CEE have any of the heavy undies on rack to try? I think last time they only had the thin ones.
You know, Scubapro used to sell drysuits and undergarments. I bought an Arctic II undergarment off eBay several years ago. It's listed as 30° to 35°. It seems to be Polartec 400 plus an outer layer of something. Barbara, I'd sell it to you but I'm afraid I might get talked into diving cold water again soon and it's the bomb.
I've only used it twice - in ABWA with 54° water, and once in JB where it was WAY overkill.
From owning the Whites, and having seen the Santi on another diver, I think the bulk is very similar.
The people I know up here who are diving the new 4th Element stuff like it, but it's VERY floaty (4 lbs MORE than a DUI 400g on a slender, middle-height man).
I don't think there's a perfect answer, but I've found the Whites with a 200g Thinsulate vest and a set of the Diving Concepts base layer under it, and argon, to be an answer that gets me through 60 to 70 minutes in water in the mid 40's. But I'm avidly eyeing a suit heater . . .
I thought you'd catch me on that one. C'mon out to SF; we can make ourselves big bucks. Dress in neoprene with high boots, CEOs lining up, flog 'em and take 'em for a swim in at Monastery Beach. Business will be good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl
Sludge, I will try anything. Am ready for Llourdes. If you end up craving cold water, we'll put you up here. Ask Wayne at Amigos; he was out in Catalina recently (not that it's cold there, but compared to FL it is).
Seriously, if you're coming to HS over thanksgiving, bring it. We're flying into JAX that day; I could try it on.
Have you seen SP's new "hinged" fins? Weird.
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Originally Posted by Slüdge
Have you looked into Pinnacles merino lined undies. Ive heard good reports about them from some canadian friends
I still can say I have never hit a person with my whips... yet.... but I could be provoked. However, I'm totally amenable to whacking the crap out of some guy (or gal) in exchange for $$ for dive gear or bicycles. Whacking people is not really my "thing," but buying dive gear is my thing. :smt081Quote:
Originally Posted by cavedivingwoman
I bought a used drysuit online, and went ahead and had the woman throw in her Weezle. Man, that thing would keep me warm in Antarctica! Don't they make several thicknesses of Weezles? This must be the it's-not-solid-ice-yet-because-of-the-salt-content model. I'd roast in FL in it.
I'm a tad bigger than you are, so it's not like you'd want mine. But you might look for one your size.
I use a Weezle Extreme under my TLS350 for winter diving in Puget Sound. Keeps me nice and warm. What I like best about it is that when my suit leaks (which is almost every dive ... after all, it's a DUI) I don't even notice until I'm out of the water ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)