When Things Go Wrong

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JamesK

The fact remains that none of us have all the facts. How about we just wait until we truly find out what happened instead of playing this guessing who to point the finger at game.

---

...and hopefully the facts actually come out, unlike what typically occurs.

LOL!! Point taken Jeff!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuPrBuGmAn

...and hopefully the facts actually come out, unlike what typically occurs.

---

I agree. I hope they do as well. However, these things do take time, and somethings are kept from public knowledge for reasons beyond our control. Maybe that is just the military in me talking. LOL..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Benderr

If nothing else, three people owe Edd a steak dinner...

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cmufieldhockey8

or a prime rib dinner with chocolate cake :)

---

It will have to be at Madisons, Edd's favorite sit-down resturant in Marianna, AND, where Edd goes Stacey goes!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JamesK

I agree. I hope they do as well. However, these things do take time, and somethings are kept from public knowledge for reasons beyond our control. Maybe that is just the military in me talking. LOL..

---

The agencies shouldn't teach about accident analysis, if they don't intend to allow it to happen.

Nobody should ##### about early speculation, until the cave community reverses the normality that information will NOT be made available.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JamesK

The fact remains that none of us have all the facts. How about we just wait until we truly find out what happened instead of playing this guessing who to point the finger at game.

---

Not looking to point a finger, James; I just want to hear from others what they think should have happened, given the excrement hit the oscillator.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuPrBuGmAn

The agencies shouldn't teach about accident analysis, if they don't intend to allow it to happen.

Nobody should ##### about early speculation, until the cave community reverses the normality that information will NOT be made available.

---

Who is to say the agency is not doing an AA on this and other events and just not sharing it? Now don't get me wrong, I am on your side in this.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jax

Not looking to point a finger, James; I just want to hear from others what they think should have happened, given the excrement hit the oscillator.

---

Don't use big words with me. LOL. I understand.

Forgive my inability to keep up with you all, but where did it say the incident was an instructor and two students?

How many have been lost, stuck, silted out, off the line, loss of gas, equipment failure, etc., and NOT reported it? With the way people get thrashed around here, buy those simply looking for drama, I would be tempted to keep my mouth shut too.

The most useful course of action for those involved would be to all submit (to a moderator) individual reports on the entire incident. The reports can be anonymously posted to the IRAP section. The thread should then be locked. No drama, just data. Everyone can make their own conclusion and decisions regarding their own diving.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JerseyJersey

Forgive my inability to keep up with you all, but where did it say the incident was an instructor and two students?

---

This is all I have seen regarding students.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by diveongas

Edd was able to locate each of the two students lost in the silt and bring them out--ALIVE!

---

I chalked it up to being a typo until further data was released.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JerseyJersey

Forgive my inability to keep up with you all, but where did it say the incident was an instructor and two students?

---

It was, there I said it.