That whole scenerio was a recipe for disaster right from the get-go. Enough said.
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That whole scenerio was a recipe for disaster right from the get-go. Enough said.
It has come to my attention that I omitted the gas analysis of the tanks.
The back tank had air and the empty stage contained 22%.
Shelley
My buddy and I dove Peacock 3 yesterday. Better then average outflow (still minimal, tannic still in many corners and visibility in most of the passages about 40' - moderate for the system - with dark walls and a fair amount of organic growth) and visibility improving at Henley's and in one other deep room farther up the main line.
My general impression is that conditions 2 days ago were likely similar or worse and that it is amazing the victim/cavern diver didn't turn the dive in the first few hundred feet, much less negotiate the sand slide restriction some 900' or so back and follow his buddies all 1200'+ to Henley's. Dropping down into Henley's by comparison would be relatively easy - even the low, silty bedding plane at 135'.
Does anyone know when the Funeral Services are ?
While I hate to even comment on this before the official report comes out....I have to wonder one thing. This is, of course, assuming that the reports here are true.
Why in the world would an instructor take a student in a single tank to Hendley's? If this was training for Intro, then the simple fact that they planned to pass a restriction that is not allowed per Intro standards(the sand slide), make a jump, then proceed down Hendleys means that they violated just about all of the training limits.
If this was not a training dive....then they violated even more of the limits of a Cavern diver. I can see a couple guys taking their Cavern certified buddy for a cave dive...though I don't agree with it, and wouldn't do it myself....but to throw an instructor into the mix...??
Mike
According to the article, the instructor was quoted as saying they were to do a "deep dive". If a student is cavern certified, and is working on Intro to cave, what training agency requires a deep cave dive to 185 feet on air? Is not the instructor required to do dives within the training agencies outline for that class? Is it normal for an instructor to have a student at his level carry a stage bottle? If an instructor does not teach what the training agency calls for could the instructor be held liable? I feel bad for the familes of the victims and anyone else involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tegg
Hi All, I've been cave certified lesss than a year. Ive been in Peacock I but not III. This has had me asking myself a lot of questions. Could I have made these same mistakes? I've had one of our trio take off in a cave, but we found him making the safety stop. I got lost on a wreck in open water and found myself heading for the stern instead of the bow. I've found myself in the water without all my gear. How about you? Ever mess up? This brings me to my next question, Are you ready to die? How about every time when you get in your car? Lot of things there you can't control. Do you believe in GOD? Do you have a saving relationship with Jesus Christ? Jesus told Nicodemus that to get into heaven "you must be born again". This means admitting you are a sinner, repenting of your sin, and asking Jesus into your life. John 3:16 says for God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on Him should not perrish but have everlasting life. Any other cavers out there not afraid to die because it opens a door to a better life?
No syphon at the time of the incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by L.Babcock
If what was reported is true then it was a deep training dive for Page. One thing I find confusing is Heck stating that the plan called for the 3 of them to descend to Henley's, then a couple of paragraphs down it says that he was surprised that Jones descended with them.
Interesting question. Personally, I'll say this....Quote:
Originally Posted by bullfrog
Heaven may be my home, but I AINT homesick!!! nuf said!
JB