Single versus dual bladder wings

Hey - I had to borrow Mary Ellen's belly bag once! Actually more like got to borrow - it was an honor.

shows how old i am ........ belly bags with 104's were tough compared to wings (not old enough for clorox bottles, however)

If you question it, use a second bladder. I do, even with a dry suit and in sidemount. How much is your life worth? You can remove the bungee.

Caves aren't always sloping upwards, so a lift bag can get you into trouble with the changing depths. Imagine a bladder failure in some place like a dome room. You can try to make it neutral, but the depth (buoyancy) changes. Also, imagine a lift bag with the sharp edges in a cave. I wouldn't count on it!

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Originally Posted by Chip

If you question it, use a second bladder. I do, even with a dry suit and in sidemount. How much is your life worth? You can remove the bungee.

Caves aren't always sloping upwards, so a lift bag can get you into trouble with the changing depths. Imagine a bladder failure in some place like a dome room. You can try to make it neutral, but the depth (buoyancy) changes. Also, imagine a lift bag with the sharp edges in a cave. I wouldn't count on it!

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Yes, I am planning on removing the bunges and working with the dual bladder wing until I can get trimmed out with it. I would much rather do that than try to rely on a lift bag.

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Originally Posted by ARY

How about carrying doubled wallmart plastic bags: you can pick up trash and have a secondary lift power of 25lb :-) Scubapro makes nice 3 mm neoprene snorkeling vest with oral inflation. It gives 20-30 lb of lift. Just a thought.

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Ary - out of curiosity, do your sidemount tanks have a small hammer/sickle on them? If so, I had fun exiting the the devlis system (from the hill 400 line...) about a week and a half ago with you.... We were 2 guys in sidemount, you came up behind us and passed us. It was a really cool exit because you were lighting up the tunnel waaaay ahead of us, so it gave this really cool effect in the tunnel.

I just went ahead and spent the extra hundred bucks and got a dualrec wing.Bungie removed.I dont think its any wider than than a classic wing,and I like mine.

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Originally Posted by Webmaster

It wasn't *that* long ago that everyone dove without flotation. I swear I done seen James Bond do it. Just don't stop swimming.

Of course then they graduated to Clorox bottles right? :lol:

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I am not sure, but I don't think that they were diving steel doubles when they were using NO inflation - or even when they were using the clorox bottles. Anyone know for sure?

I do know that I would sure hate to be stuck in a cave without my BC, but most failures wouldn't make it totally unusable. Just keep bleelding air in while you swim out sideways ; )

Steel 72 most likely on a hard backplate

If you lose the use of your bcd ,you should try and walk out

I dive in a TLS drysuit which is a suitable backup for buoyancy.