Some of the problems are caused by us because of factions we create. It used to be the Hogarthian versus personal preference. Then we have had DIR vs non-DIR, NACD vs CDS, cave shop x customers vs cave shop y customers, and now I see backmount vs sidemount. Fans of these particular groups clash and this is given a definition of cave politics,but far from it. Each of these groups is passionate, and strong opinioned, and there is conflict that is generated.

