Some CCR help

Lots of posts about cost...like cave diving is such a cheap sport....

Take a look at the dives you want to do then decide if CCR is the way to go. Also your style of diving. Just curious but if you are not CCR qualified why do you already want to be a CCR instructor? I got my OW instructor cert and I've DM'd a lot for tech diving classes at all levels and I would never be a tech instructor 1) those guys are way smarter than I am 2) there is no way I have enough patience to work through some of the dorked up issues tech students have. Take that to the CCR level and...

Me personally I feel safer in the overhead environment on CCR just because if something goes totally crazy I have time to deal with it. Look at most cave double fatalities, one guy gets lost the other searches until they are out of gas or turn to late and run out of gas on the way out (failure on the divers part yes but it happens a lot more than it should anyway) which is pretty hard to do CCR. I can think of a few other situations where time would be helpful. On the other side CCRs do bring their own set of risks and require a little more time to take care of overall.

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Originally Posted by Wizard

Can't wait to see what she got the 13 grand she spend.

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She got her own eCCR :mrgreen: they both dive eCCR's

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Originally Posted by icestac

I think he was being sarcastic, hence the smiley face :)

Cheers,
Jeff

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Nope, I was being serious. I think they are a gimmicky piece of crap. The smiley face was for Paul Raymakers, he always gets mad whenever I bring up the flaws on his unit (which are more than most) besides the Optima.

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Originally Posted by jcook

Nope, I was being serious. I think they are a gimmicky piece of crap. The smiley face was for Paul Raymakers, he always gets mad whenever I bring up the flaws on his unit (which are more than most) besides the Optima.

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Wow, how insightful.

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Originally Posted by jcook

Nope, I was being serious. I think they are a gimmicky piece of crap. The smiley face was for Paul Raymakers, he always gets mad whenever I bring up the flaws on his unit (which are more than most) besides the Optima.

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Alrighty then... thanks for clearing that up and I apologize for putting words into your post.

Cheers,
Jeff
(rEvo diver... but I did upgrade from an Optima :))

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Originally Posted by jcook

Nope, I was being serious. I think they are a gimmicky piece of crap. The smiley face was for Paul Raymakers, he always gets mad whenever I bring up the flaws on his unit (which are more than most) besides the Optima.

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That just not necessary. If you do not like the rEvo fine, but there is no need to categorically bash it. All rebreathers have their flaws, and what may be a flaw for one person may be a plus for someone else.

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Originally Posted by jcook

Nope, I was being serious. I think they are a gimmicky piece of crap.

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Can you give some details as to what brings you to that conclusion?

I've had a rEvo for a while now and have about 150 dives on it. Only had one issue with the HUD & it was a quick and simple fix.

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Originally Posted by Slüdge

Those are some strange numbers - what kind of bailout bottles cost $562 each?

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Probably including regs and stage kits.

well saving money will depend on how and what you calculate.

First I use Medical Sorb which costs $10 per fill, I have made 7+ hour dives on my breather with med sorb

being that I use so little gas I use higher % of He.

dives lengths are 4 to 6 times longer on CCR then OC, instead of 2 or 3 one hour dive I make 2 three hour dives or 1 four to seven hour dive
dives on CCR are warmer then on OC. so how much do you put on comfort?
my mental clarity is 5 to 8 times better on CCR then OC. Higher % He and ability to make longer dives I retain more and see more.

I've dove an Optima since it first came out and wouldn't consider it a bad unit at all. The only issues I have ever had have all been with electronics