JB access

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Originally Posted by OutlawCaver

How about a combination lock? The combination could be changed periodically and on file at the JCSO when you check in. There are combo/key locks available as well if they wanted certain JC personnel to have keys and not have to track combinations.

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:clapper

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Originally Posted by OutlawCaver

How about a combination lock? The combination could be changed periodically and on file at the JCSO when you check in. There are combo/key locks available as well if they wanted certain JC personnel to have keys and not have to track combinations.

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If the goal is to track divers coming and going, that isn't going to work. It'd be a few hours before the combo was all over these sites :-)

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Originally Posted by BobK

If the goal is to track divers coming and going, that isn't going to work. It'd be a few hours before the combo was all over these sites :-)

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That's what moderators are for.

Unfortunatly BobK is right, the combination would leak out, internet or not.

How about a $50 deposit for the key...they would get them back then I bet :mrgreen:

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Originally Posted by FW

the combination would leak out

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I say fine. Let it leak out.

But have deputies patrol the park several times a day, and arrest anybody on the premises that doesn't have a card in their window. :clapper

Maybe "we" (the JB cavedivers) could offer to pay for new keys. Then if one goes missing, we can ask the deputy for the name, and "we" could hassle the diver to give it back. A little peer pressure goes a long way :-)

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Originally Posted by FW

Maybe "we" (the JB cavedivers) could offer to pay for new keys. Then if one goes missing, we can ask the deputy for the name, and "we" could hassle the diver to give it back. A little peer pressure goes a long way :-)

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Forest,
Not a bad idea. I remember Scott Hunsucker bought the original high dollar lock and made the first keys, at his own expense. This was after a long and hard fought battle with several gatherings at the JCB meetings, one of which I attended, along with Pat Watson and others. It is a privilege for us to be there if we pay or not. We should go above and beyond to maintain access, as others have done before now.
Thanks,
Kenny P.

I agree with Forrest that we ought to be able to get the divers name and apply a little "peer pressure". I often wonder what kind of person it takes to borrow someone elses property and does not return it. If you have gotten the key from the sheriff's department, take it back (or mail it)...period. The cave divers that I have met in the time I have been cave diving are some of the best, most upstanding people in the world. I have the ultimate respect for those people and a very small handful of very sorrow individuals are going to mess up something that alot of people worked hard to get.

Brian Hamilton

How about negotiating a deal that allows us a key to keep. We can pay $175.00 for our pass or if it is current, $25.00 for a key to keep. After that it could be $150.00 unless we lose our key. Even though we have an annual pass we still have to check in if we go through the gate, so this would be no different. It would be a lot of work for someone to try and keep up with the keys. This could be a solution and the spares at the SO could be for people who do not have a pass.