Where does Hill 400 end?

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Originally Posted by Ben M

I've often thought about bringing a trowel or something similar and trying to smooth over so bad areas in caves that don't really self heal. I have not though for fear of making things worse. Anyone tried something like this? Other than the "pro" job at Cow I don't think I have seen it discussed.

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Yes, I did that in the roller coaster tunnel and simply smoothed all the obvious hand plants, scooter shroud marks, and fin marks a couple years ago and it worked quite well, i dont think it would work so well for the deeper gouges that are in the hillier. Bill

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Originally Posted by wingman

Yes, I did that...

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Plus, Bill and I tried to do that at The Elbow at JB, but the gouges ended up being a lot deeper than we had assumed, so we pretty much left it.

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Originally Posted by Ben M

I've often thought about bringing a trowel or something similar and trying to smooth over so bad areas in caves that don't really self heal.

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Bill Huth and I tried some of this on the roller coaster @ Devil's a few years ago. It was a lot of work with very little return. After we did it you could hardly tell we had been there trying to fix it.

A trowel and a little hand dusting worked very well a few years back when some chump wrote "Eric Clapton" on the floor of the White Room. Some friends and I spent some time in there redoing the floor, afterwards you couldn't tell it was ever there. I guess it works in some places and not in others, but I must say that the writing was only finger deep so to speak....

Safe diving,

Rich

I plan to take Hill 400 to the end then check out Double Domes. I am bringing 2 stages. 1 for a buddy bottle, the other for extra gas.

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Originally Posted by ScubaRob

I plan to take Hill 400 to the end then check out Double Domes.

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There is a more direct route....

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Originally Posted by Jim Wyatt

There is a more direct route....

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I know, I just want to see all of Hill 400. Double Domes is a bonus.

You could take the rollercoaster to the crossover to hiller to double domes, then on the way back take hiller to hill 400 back to goldline. Less work doing it that way IMO

Somehow a thread like this takes all of the romance ( in the renaissance usage of the word) out of cave diving. Just swim the bloody thing. Revel in the surprises. Feel that frisson as you suddenly wonder if you're really where you thought you were. Go enjoy a touch of the unexpected, for chrissakes.

Go to Jackson Blue, talk about a cave to get lost in. The map is a good guidline for the mainline and that is about it. Had a plane today to checkout an area and after tying in to jump the plane went to **** becaue it was one T after the other after the other (which where not on the map). It was fun though we circled back on ourselves about 3 different times. I had to make sure I brought extra cookies after my second day diving there.