Scooters on ebay

Check these out. anybody know anything about thses?????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=006

I would be *very* skeptical of any scooter on Ebay. I was trying to buy one a year or so, and found about 4 that had pictures of someone elses scooter. We have members all over the country. Tell the seller you are sending a friend to examine it. If he balks, it is probably a scam, or stolen.

One thing that smacks of these being legitimate is that the seller would prefer that the buyer pick up the units in person so some instruction can be provided. If I were in the area, I'd bid on them after going to see them in person.

Mark

The guy is a poster over on The Deco Stop:

http://thedecostop.com/forums/showth...&highlight=HKN

Seems legit enough to me.

They are legit. That's a doctor in Wisconsin that was trying to test the boundaries of DPV performance. He had the bucks to blow on it. Patrick almost signed a deal with him to mass produce. The doc was bringing them to cave country to try out every now and then. Lots of people saw the scoots he made. They were very fast but I'm not sure if they had a lot of range.

If this is the same guy, I met him when he was testing them in the JB basin last year. They are powerful. Held vertical at full throttle, almost the whole scooter but the shroud was out of the water. I'm also not sure about the range.

I had a lot of conversations with him when he had considered making them. Patrick did have a close look at them. They were going to be very expensive to make and sell. He had some excellent folks make the different parts of them who normally make experimental airplanes. Note the area he is from and you will understand. I do think he borrowed a lot of ideas from other manufactures who helped him with his project and got at least one pretty upset when he considered selling them. I want to say it produced over 130 lbs of thrust which is pretty strong. He used brush less motors and from other folks I have talked to it takes a lot of work and money ( Burning them and controller boards up ) to get a combo that works. But of course I am not a scooter guy, I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Tom