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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael F View Post
    OK Jeff, you're crazy.
    Completely guano crazy! I saw him eat a sandwich at the deli without a backup beer!

    Mark Schroder

    The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice. (PV12:15)

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmint View Post
    So I'm the diver this happened to, here's what happened:


    A friend had loaned us a tow scooter to practice towing around Ginnie for later dives that might require them. Our plan was for one of us to tow the scooter to stage bottle rock, drop the tow scooter and stages. Scooter up to the mainland jump. go to about 36 or 3700ish, turn the dive, swim back to the scooters, pick them up, scooter back to stage bottle rock and I would pick up the tow scooter and ride it out towing my scooter.


    Everything went as planned until about 3500 feet of penetration into mainland. I felt a tickling on my right side and looked over and saw gas spewing out of a split in my 6 inch hose. I shut down the tank and switched to the left tank. I flashed my buddy and gave him the thumb. I turned on the right tank for a second to show him what was happening.


    We turned around. I started feathering the valve to save gas while we were swimming back to the mainland jump. I'm not going to lie, I was a bit shaken up at the thought of being 3500 feet back with one tank on my side. I went a little faster than I should have back through the belly crawl and silted up a little bit which actually slowed us down. It also caused my breathing to increase. I came close to overbreathing the reg and had to concentrate to slow it down. Feathering a valve in an actual stressful situation is also hard. Feeling the hose give out of air for that split second before you crack the valve again kind of reminds you how dire the situation could be. I *know* I have enough gas to get out, but there's that deep sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach saying "you done messed up ... it's over"
    Once we got back to the mainland jump and I looked at the gas left and saw the scooter, I felt a little bit better but still extremely concerned. I wasted no time getting back to stage bottle rock, I mean I was flying out of there as fast as my little scooter would go.


    When we picked up the stages I checked my gas again and it was only then where I actually relaxed and felt better. I switched to to the stage and pointed to my buddy to pick up the tow scooter. I'd had enough and just didn't want to play. When I got to the maple leaf I was thinking about the stage. I didn't want to breathe it dry and end up in another one tank situation. I switched back to back gas and rode it the rest of the way out, so I could switch to the stage if something happened.


    Deco went fine. When I got back to dry land I had 2500 psi in the bottle I had to shut down and feather. I had 1500 in the bottle that I rode all the way out. and the stage was probably 1/4 full.
    Looking back, I was scared snotless but at no time was I ever even close to running out of gas. We had a tow scooter so the possiblity of having to swim out was roughly non-existent. It was a learning experience. Stuff CAN and WILL happen at max penetration. Plan for it. Practice for it.


    I think we might just start dropping an extra safety bottle for the team at the mainland jump just to be on the safe side
    Rikki wrench.
    Joel


  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlcdvr View Post
    Rikki wrench.
    Joel
    We saw one of those for the first time yesterday. Anyone know where we can get some?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHartmann View Post
    We saw one of those for the first time yesterday. Anyone know where we can get some?
    They were only available through Jill, I just checked with her and she was sold out... I am digging a bit deeper.... it may have been a one time run....

    Why yes that was me in shorts and a t-shirt @ the 700' marker

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    SO... I googled Rikki, found his motorcycle site, messaged him and the response was that he was actually shipping some to Light Monkey Today...

    Why yes that was me in shorts and a t-shirt @ the 700' marker

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    Quote Originally Posted by twaldo View Post
    SO... I googled Rikki, found his motorcycle site, messaged him and the response was that he was actually shipping some to Light Monkey Today...

    DIBS!


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    So I at least get to order ONE.... Emailed Light Monkey and haven't gotten a response yet, not something they have available on their on-line store.

    Why yes that was me in shorts and a t-shirt @ the 700' marker

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    In discussing this incident with various divers, here are a few thoughts that have come up:


    Two people suggested the Rikki wrench. I'd never even heard of it before.


    A couple of people suggested carrying the stages further and dropping them at the mainland jump instead of SBR, just so it's a shorter trip back to them when something goes wrong.


    The presence of at least one stage also gives the possibility of hot swapping a reg off the stage and onto the back gas bottle. It'll probably screw up the pressure gauge and the reg should be rebuilt after, but its possible to access the gas supply that way. In a life or death situation, it's worth the try at least.


  9. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlcdvr View Post
    Rikki wrench.
    Joel
    You're my friend. You're wrong on this.

    Chad's response was perfect. Unscrewing pressure gauges from the first stage on a sidemount bottle to then plug it with a wrench is going to waste precious time and make a freaking mess at 3500' in Mainland.

    Ken Sallot

  10. #40

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    We just have to disagree. It depends on your gas supply. If you have planned properly, as these guys did, it’s a minor inconvenience. If you close without options, I can swap that out pretty quick and move on. All about motivation. Besides, taking side mount advice from a backmounter is not the best course of action. Joel

    ?I got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals?. Butch Cassidy circa 1900


 

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