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    Anyone else play with the Windows 8 preview? I put it on one of my tablets today... I'm really not digging it so far, and I'm a Windows guy.
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    I'm debating on converting to a Mac.

    Win8 is a train wreck.
    3rd party add developers are calling it a catastrophe, saying that developing apps for 8 will be hell.

    google "windows 8 hell"
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    It's Vista all over again. As told by a IT buddy of mine. He gets beta versions sent to him all the time by programmers he worked with back in the day. It took him a week to wreck his first version of 7. He was quite impressed. He got a version of 8 and it went down in 2 hours. The second version he was sent was wrecked in about 4 hours. He does not plan to upgrade anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyf View Post
    I'm debating on converting to a Mac.

    Win8 is a train wreck.
    3rd party add developers are calling it a catastrophe, saying that developing apps for 8 will be hell.

    google "windows 8 hell"
    I'm anxious to try developing a HTML5/CSS3/JS metro app. I think the standardized design patterns they're trying to encourage will be a positive at the enterprise level, even if smaller apps need to become over engineered to follow them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenwood_60 View Post
    Anyone else play with the Windows 8 preview? I put it on one of my tablets today... I'm really not digging it so far, and I'm a Windows guy.
    I'm not terribly impressed, using it on a non touch screen interface wasn't intuitive at all. I think if I had tried it on a device with exterior buttons and a touch screen I might feel different.

    We were going to look into Windows 8 tablets for our Pilots and Flight attendants at work, but I think the interface was found to confuse most, and the iPads were more user friendly. There was a rather large hardware price difference, but the iPads won. I can't say I disagree with the decision as I've long believed that the prettier the interface the cheaper the implementation, because users will try harder to work with software that looks elegant before calling support. Pretty software = Good Software = User feels stupid if they can't figure it out. Ugly Software = Crap = Call support and have them deal with this crap management bought!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard View Post
    It's Vista all over again. As told by a IT buddy of mine. He gets beta versions sent to him all the time by programmers he worked with back in the day. It took him a week to wreck his first version of 7. He was quite impressed. He got a version of 8 and it went down in 2 hours. The second version he was sent was wrecked in about 4 hours. He does not plan to upgrade anytime soon.
    I would be careful how much you listen to this friend-- observations like these aren't very accurate. Since Windows 8 isn't released yet, all drivers are at best beta, likely alpha, and Windows 8 can change with every release without telling the hardware manufacture until release date. You can't really judge stability of an operating system until it's running on hardware designed for it, or at the very least has the hardware drivers it needs.

    There are some speed advantages to 8 from what I'm reading, although I did my testing in VMware with limited RAM, so I can't give much of an opinion on this part
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    I stayed with Microsoft through windows Vista. (Well, had clients staying on XP - hoping for light at the end of the tunnel (which was Windows 7)).

    But now - We're expected to learn a whole new interface. I find both Linux and Mac platforms easier for me to migrate to than upgrading to this latest version of Windows. It's not PC/Desktop friendly at all, and very foreign to existing Windows users. (And not very ergogenic if users are expected to have the monitor closer, or lean forward all the time to touch the screen).

    I'm a developer too - and I concur with BillyF. I'm advising all my clients to stay with Windows 7. I'm actually going as far to say that Windows 8 will be unsupported by us! I know some may think that's a bad business decision, but our company did it in the past with Vista - and it actually paid off!! (Plus, I know of very few businesses, especially corporations that actually went to Vista).

    The only problem is, if there isn't light at the end of this tunnel - Mac or Linux with VMWare for 'legacy' apps may be the next move (for desktop operators at least).

    Once again Apple's next large market share gain might be once again caused by the mistakes of Microsoft, rather than Apple doing the right thing.

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    Isn't this is the same conversation that we had when Windows 3.0 came out and no one wanted to give up their DOS. Then windows 98, then Me, then XP.... You get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OFG-1 View Post
    Isn't this is the same conversation that we had when Windows 3.0 came out and no one wanted to give up their DOS. Then windows 98, then Me, then XP.... You get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adza View Post
    I stayed with Microsoft through windows Vista. (Well, had clients staying on XP - hoping for light at the end of the tunnel (which was Windows 7)).

    But now - We're expected to learn a whole new interface. I find both Linux and Mac platforms easier for me to migrate to than upgrading to this latest version of Windows. It's not PC/Desktop friendly at all, and very foreign to existing Windows users. (And not very ergogenic if users are expected to have the monitor closer, or lean forward all the time to touch the screen).

    I'm a developer too - and I concur with BillyF. I'm advising all my clients to stay with Windows 7. I'm actually going as far to say that Windows 8 will be unsupported by us! I know some may think that's a bad business decision, but our company did it in the past with Vista - and it actually paid off!! (Plus, I know of very few businesses, especially corporations that actually went to Vista).

    The only problem is, if there isn't light at the end of this tunnel - Mac or Linux with VMWare for 'legacy' apps may be the next move (for desktop operators at least).

    Once again Apple's next large market share gain might be once again caused by the mistakes of Microsoft, rather than Apple doing the right thing.
    I wish developers would stop caving into Apple products. I think it's crazy that any developer would flock to a system where the OS manufacture gets a cut of all application sales. I really think that's where Apple is headed with the desktop, and clearly already there with the iphone/ipad, where it took court battles to verify it was legal to even install your own software via jailbreak. Of course, now that the ball is rolling so to speak, it's hard not to :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    I still use DOS
    And the reason I'm not surprised would be...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    And the reason I'm not surprised would be...
    You left out the best part
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