Razor2 coldwater

[JamesK]

I am having the same issue to some extent with my Razor and hp100s. The cord on my boltsnaps is only about 1" long and the rear D-rings are about as far back as I can get them. Its almost like I need to be wider across my torso so there's more distance between the Dring on the top/back of my hip and the cylinder strap (I'm using worm clamps on the cylinders). I have a 32" waist so there's not much horizontal distance across my back to move the Dring medially. (The same Dring the OP has his cylinders clipped to which also looks to be fairly high on his hip almost on his back). I suppose I could shorten up the 1" cord loop the boltsnap is connecting to the worm clam with. And possibly use smaller bold snaps. But then the issue becomes how to fit my dry gloved hand between the tail of the cylinder and my body.

Other ideas welcome.

I have a 32" waist as well, and ran in to the same problem, except with AL80's. For me it was real bad because they hung to low full, and the to high as they emptied. I could not get the dring back far enough and not make the wing bubble up or the front d rings far enough forward and still keep my buckle. My solution was to use bungee cord to attach the bolt snap under the worm clamp. I have the bungee where it leaves no leash. When I need to get my hands in, the bungee is able to stretch enough to get my hand in. Works good for me now. I use ring bungees on the tops of the tanks.

[rjack]

I have a 32" waist as well, and ran in to the same problem, except with AL80's. For me it was real bad because they hung to low full, and the to high as they emptied. I could not get the dring back far enough and not make the wing bubble up or the front d rings far enough forward and still keep my buckle. My solution was to use bungee cord to attach the bolt snap under the worm clamp. I have the bungee where it leaves no leash. When I need to get my hands in, the bungee is able to stretch enough to get my hand in. Works good for me now. I use ring bungees on the tops of the tanks.

Awesome thanks for the tip! I will give the worm clamp tail bungie a try. I even have some leftover bungie I trimmed off the neck piece.

[JamesK]

No problem. You might have to use a thicker bungee then I do with the steels, but who knows. Hope it works.

[rjack]

I will try the 1/4" and see how it goes. 5/16" is vastly thicker so if it requires that it may not work.

In the process I think I am going to move the worm clamps up the tanks (towards the valve) to effectively drag the cylinders backwards more. I am not sure how well that will work to get the crowns to ride higher along my sides with the valve more behind the arm instead of below. But I'm willing to try it.

[rongoodman]

Has anyone tried using the Razor with the DSS or Golem buttplate with steel tanks? I've done all my diving with mine so far in Mexico with Al80s, but I want to set up another harness for diving here in the NE, with drysuit, heavier underwear, and steel tanks(LP85s to start with).

[jcook]

Has anyone tried using the Razor with the DSS or Golem buttplate with steel tanks? I've done all my diving with mine so far in Mexico with Al80s, but I want to set up another harness for diving here in the NE, with drysuit, heavier underwear, and steel tanks(LP85s to start with).

Yes, dove it with LP95's. I am getting some LP85's next weekend, so I will have to get back to you on that. I am using it with the Z-wing though, not the Razor 2.

[JamesK]

Yes, dove it with LP95's. I am getting some LP85's next weekend, so I will have to get back to you on that. I am using it with the Z-wing though, not the Razor 2.

Which Z Wing? I have the 20lb wing and have a DR butt plate on the way for my harness. I plan on getting the 55lb wing for steels.

[rongoodman]

Yes, dove it with LP95's. I am getting some LP85's next weekend, so I will have to get back to you on that. I am using it with the Z-wing though, not the Razor 2.

Which buttplate are you using? If you Golem, how did you attach it?

[jcook]

The 20lb z-wing, it worked fine but was completely pumped up. So if you plan on carrying a stage or deco bottle I would get the bigger wing (The DSS one, not the z-wing). I just wanted something small and streamlined so it would feel like I had nothing on in the water.

I used it with a DR nomad buttplate, since I didn't want to change leash lengths when I went from my JT to the Razor. Greenwood_60 has a really good way of doing it with a 'Dillo buttplate. It is under the sidemount forum, can't remember the thread name though.

[rongoodman]

OK, thanks. I found the picture I think you're referring too and it looks like what I was going to try. I have the Razor II wing, so flotation shouldn't be an issue.