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    What are the rules concerning an Intro diver exploring off the main line with a safety reel but not jumping onto another line? Is it permissible at all?

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    to my understanding it is...but I am not sure.

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    A safety reel is not deployed in order to explore. D.H.

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    Reeling off the main line but not tying into another line (creating a navigational decision) is no different than a lost buddy drill or lost line drill. It was explained to me this is permissible within reason. I would say there is a no hard set rule for every situation, some side passages are a whole different story than others obviously.

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    i agree with not deploying a safety, nor would I encourage using a 1200' explorer reel. But if you want to poke around a bit for jumps by doing what you have described and then plan those jumps as you progress in training...I think that is good practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Eternal View Post
    Reeling off the main line but not tying into another line (creating a navigational decision)
    The act of reeling off (for exploration or lost buddy) creates a navigational decision as to which direction to take when reeling back in.
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    I would say no you can't according to the rule.

    unnexplore tunel have they own set of danger and even a full train cave with no experience should not rush there.

    beside, there is so many beautiful and simple dive that you can do as a intro, why trying to make them more complex?
    Etienne Rousseau

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    http://www.closedsystemdiving.com

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    That is a no brainer. You create a "t" therefore you create a navigational decision so it is not allowed. A lost diver procedure is an emergency so it is allowed only under that circumstance.

    What is allowed is exploring on your primary tied off in open water.

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    One of the skill sets at the Intro level is lost buddy drill. You can't remain proficient in skills without practicing them. I tell my students to practice the skills they learn in each course. While technically, deploying a safety does create a T, you should have been trained in that skill and know how to do it properly. Does this mean you should deploy all 150' of line off your safety? No. But I don't see anything wrong with deploying a safety and running it out 50' or so. That being said, do not tie if off to another line because that is above your training level, make sure you are carrying 2 safeties in case you foul up the safety you are practicing with (I require my students to carry 2 safeties for other reasons), and just make sure you are practicing this skill the way you were taught.
    Rob Neto
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    Cozumel Caves Expeditions

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    Agreed with so far mentioned posts and would ad that Intro divers should if they want 'explore', take the upgrade part of the training. At Intro level you should not 'explore' as it is another ballgame than just putting a jump/safety (???) reel on the main line and wonder off. On top of that, it is in the limits of the diver level - no exploration.

    My 2 centavos advice!


 

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