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    Default New arrows in Peanut tunnel

    This was reported in another forum, but I suspect the anchors at the end of the cavern zone should look/feel diferent from the goldline. Someone added arrows, but different anchor lines might be better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat Jef View Post
    I'm not the cave arrow police or anything, but I'm wondering if this arrow arrangement is necessary?

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    (I took these pictures on March 18 - this is from the rock where you make a right-angled turn into the peanut tunnel as you exit the cavern zone going up the peanut line in Peacock 1)

    It looks to me like there's an "official arrow" (to the right) and then two new arrows added by "EJL" at the intersection near the quicklink - they look pretty new. It appears that the official arrow is bent somewhat badly and held on by a zip tie.

    When I went through training, I seem to recall there being only one arrow, and there was no quick-link - so tracing the line to make sure I was heading out the correct direction in zero viz (which I had to do) was exciting - if you didn't feel the line carefully, you'd wind up making a trip around the rock. I think the quicklink is new.

    I guess the three arrows don't make much sense to me, especially since there's a continuous line that goes straight through the quicklink now - not around the rock. Seems to me that you'd be able to trace the line pretty easily, and the extra arrows here might cause more confusion than anything else.

    Thoughts? Opinions? Is more better in this case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    I suspect the anchors at the end of the cavern zone should look/feel diferent from the goldline. Someone added arrows, but different anchor lines might be better.
    People are always adding arrows, cookies and all kinds of glory markers..seems to be inevitable. IMHO those 2 new orange arrows should not be there as Red Hat Jef suggests. The park rules state that folks are not supposed to do that.

    I am not sure what is meant by "The anchors at the end of the cavern zone".....etc etc means...??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wyatt View Post
    I am not sure what is meant by "The anchors at the end of the cavern zone".....etc etc means...??
    He probably means that webbing (or something) should have been used around the rock, so that when an out of light diver felt up to the quick link, it was completely obvious that there was only one way on (since it's so close to the entrance and so many newbie trainee divers could be learning the way of cave diving).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wyatt View Post
    ..I am not sure what is meant by "The anchors at the end of the cavern zone".....etc etc means...??
    Where the cavern line goes into the bedding plane (that resembles the "Lips" in Devil's Eye). That is where the two new arrows are. I think they were put there to try and clarify the goldline that goes around a rock to anchor the real main line. It would be good if it were a different color, and perhaps a different size. Students doing drills in that area may be trying to follow the line around the rock. An arrow on each side of the quick link might reduce confusion. I don't think those are "glory markers".
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    IMHO I feel the quick link is a good thing to have thrown at new divers in training, it will teach them to actually trace the line to deterimine which way it goes. When I was going through the drills my instructor would wrap line around anything and everything including wrapping the line several times around the same object. It taught me to feel the line and determine which way it actually went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onebaddago View Post
    IMHO I feel the quick link is a good thing to have thrown at new divers in training...
    No problem with the quick link, just anchoring it with goldline.
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    The way the line is run there now is better than it used to be. Before the quick link was added (summer of 2009, if I remember correctly), the line was anchored by being tied around that large rock. Perhaps a different type of line to anchor the quick link is not a bad idea.

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    Am I missing something here? What is the big deal with the quicklink? It is not that much different than if the goldline was actually wrapped around the rock. It is still just a matter of FEELING the line to know which way is out.

    The divers should take note of the situation on the way in anyway. That would make it a "no brainer" on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onebaddago View Post
    IMHO I feel the quick link is a good thing to have thrown at new divers in training, it will teach them to actually trace the line to deterimine which way it goes. When I was going through the drills my instructor would wrap line around anything and everything including wrapping the line several times around the same object. It taught me to feel the line and determine which way it actually went.
    I agree with this, in addition it hammers home the point that you should pay attention to line routing while entering.
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    obviously those two new arrows mark a jump to the gold line that runs around the rock. i bet it's a creative solution to the circuit requirement for those divers whose sac rate is through the roof. but where would one tie in the jump reels? the quick link is all ready in the middle, so one on either side of the arrows, with a cookie marking your exit side in case three arrows pointing in the same direction just aren't enough? the complex nav possibilities are endless! : )


 

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