Mounting light on Nomad [Archive] - Cave Diver's Forum

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 09:18 PM

aainslie

03-13-2009, 09:24 PM

Looks similar to the way I have it with a nice difference. The nice thing about your setup is if it's jamming you into a spot it's removable underwater. Mine is harder to remove.

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 09:28 PM

Wish I could claim it was my idea, got the idea from Jeff Loflin but not sure if this looks right, guess its not really all that complicated if it works it works, if it doesn't it doesn't.

I've been wearing it on my belt but decided to give this a try, want to keep the right side clear for stages.

atedeschi

03-13-2009, 09:29 PM

just another option, but i like this as well. I have a DR 500 corded light and it is slide on the right side waist belt then the nomad wing is slide on to the waist strap. I run the cord up along the wing through the bungies that keep the wing tight. It then comes over my right shoulder and can be used on either hand. I like it because it is protected a lot more then the butt mount way, but my canister is also smaller. Just another idea.

BgDadddy

03-13-2009, 09:40 PM

I mount mine on the next higher set of D-rings. When I tried to mount it on my butt, it got in the way of me attaching my tanks. The next higher set works perfectly for me.

YMMV

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 09:41 PM

I thought about that, but thats going to put it right in the middle of my back with no way for it to "roll down" at all in a tight spot, and I don't think I could remove it easily from there vs on the bottom.

Diverlee

03-13-2009, 10:13 PM

Thats kind of how I hang mine but I use a different clip and clip mine to the sidemount things or cabnet handles as some call it. Never had a problem.

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 10:14 PM

Thats kind of how I hang mine but I use a different clip and clip mine to the sidemount things or cabnet handles as some call it. Never had a problem.

cabnet, are you refering to the rails where the rear tank clip hooks on?

Diverlee

03-13-2009, 10:17 PM

cabnet, are you refering to the rails where the rear tank clip hooks on?

Yes. I was at a lose for words there.:) I was trying to delete the first post as I took a closer look at your picture.

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 10:23 PM

yea, I'd like where that would put the light, more down lower on the butt so it would be sticking up less but that would make the cord a bit short for me, or at least I THINK it would I'd have to try that.

Diverlee

03-13-2009, 10:31 PM

I had my cord lengthened a little. Also I use sm quicklinks and a regular clip attached to each side of the light instead of a double ender. It gives me the length I need on each side. Hope that makes sense. My light is in N FL at this time or I would take a picture of it for you.

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 10:33 PM

Diverlee

03-13-2009, 10:36 PM

What kind of light do you have? I guess I"d have to take my light to barry to have him lengthen it.

The idea behind the double enders is easy off and easy on, I would like it shorter but I don't think they make short double enders, or at least that I'm aware of.

I sent mine to Dive Rite for the cord. I have the MR10? It looks like yours, the small slim one that came out after the wreck lights. I am not good with names. :)
Mine comes off easily, the clips just stay attached to the light.

03-13-2009, 11:29 PM

I have some double enders that are about 3/4 of an inch shorter. I use small snap bolts on my light, though. I tie them onto the hose clamps. It tightens it up much nicer and is still easy to remove.

fixxervi6

03-13-2009, 11:31 PM

I have some double enders that are about 3/4 of an inch shorter. I use small snap bolts on my light, though. I tie them onto the hose clamps. It tightens it up much nicer and is still easy to remove.

What is your source for the shorter double enders?

atedeschi

03-13-2009, 11:45 PM

divegearexpress has them, and home depot has brass ones.

03-13-2009, 11:49 PM

What is your source for the shorter double enders?

http://www.nixdogcollars.com/nixdogcollars/Diving_Snaps.html

You have to buy a lot of 10, though.

Also, correction, they are only 1/2 inch shorter.

http://www.nixdogcollars.com/nixdogcollars/162SS.html

SMB

03-14-2009, 02:53 AM

I've attached a pic of my nomad with the light "butt mounted"

To those of you that know better than I, does this look ok? I'm afraid the light will get beat to hell if I make contact with the ceiling.

I"m thinking to run the cord between my right cylinder and my boddy.

so, how does it look, good, bad, suggestions?

Hard to tell unless you can get a picture in the water but to me the position looks a bit too high.
You want to make sure the can does not sit on top of you butt and increase your vertical profile which normally in sm you want to keep as small as possible to get through smaller cave particularly low bedding plane.
Of course if you are not diving small stuff it won't really matter.
Ideally the can should be at the top of your thighs just under your butt cheeks.
This is the most streamlined low profile position for it but you may need a longer light cord to make this work.
Run your crotch strap over the can to help hold it in place.
If you want to get rid of the hard attachment points altogether then move a standard belt loop to the middle of the can and run the crotch strap through it.
That will also stop the light from moving from side to side as well which can be irritating.

skip

03-14-2009, 07:37 AM

I run mine similarly - butt mount. Needed a bit longer cord, but it works fine and rolls out of the way in tight places. I like the clips, rather than mounting on crotch strap, for ease of removal u/w. My clips are tied into the belt slide with cave line, thus eliminating a hard connection from putting them under the clamps. By using two clips the side-to-side motion is minimized too.

-skip

NorthWoodsDiver

03-14-2009, 11:24 AM

SMB

03-14-2009, 12:33 PM

Dive rite has a system that eliminates the metal to metal issue but a person could do something similar and sew small bolt snaps onto the system in place of the D-rings and Quick Links.

http://www.diverite.com/products/catalog/lights/ac3010

Have a look at this solution.
Simple, easy, cheap and you can customise the length to whatever you want so the cannister sits in exactly the right place.

chimie007

03-14-2009, 12:35 PM

Have a look at this solution.
Simple, easy, cheap and you cam customise the length to whatever you want so the can sits in exactly the right place.

That's what I did on mine. I still use double enders but made some loops as shown above permanently attached to the can light. I thread the can with the crotch strap. It sits just bellow the butt plate.

fixxervi6

03-14-2009, 12:51 PM

Hard to tell unless you can get a picture in the water but to me the position looks a bit too high.
You want to make sure the can does not sit on top of you butt and increase your vertical profile which normally in sm you want to keep as small as possible to get through smaller cave particularly low bedding plane.
Of course if you are not diving small stuff it won't really matter.
Ideally the can should be at the top of your thighs just under your butt cheeks.
This is the most streamlined low profile position for it but you may need a longer light cord to make this work.
Run your crotch strap over the can to help hold it in place.
If you want to get rid of the hard attachment points altogether then move a standard belt loop to the middle of the can and run the crotch strap through it.
That will also stop the light from moving from side to side as well which can be irritating.

Yea that was my biggest fear with this method is I'm afraid the can will "stick up" I know that when I am in the water my butt plate rolls down a bit, guess I'll have to have a buddy check me or something.

fixxervi6

03-14-2009, 12:52 PM

Dive rite has a system that eliminates the metal to metal issue but a person could do something similar and sew small bolt snaps onto the system in place of the D-rings and Quick Links.

http://www.diverite.com/products/catalog/lights/ac3010

I was thinking about the metal on metal, this at leat gives me two clips to disconnect and if need be the attachment points could be cut free from the nomad.

fixxervi6

03-14-2009, 12:53 PM

Have a look at this solution.
Simple, easy, cheap and you cam customise the length to whatever you want so the can sits in exactly the right place.

If I end up having to so somethign like this I will need to get my light cord changed to something longer

SMB

03-14-2009, 01:09 PM

That's what I did on mine. I still use double enders but made some loops as shown above permanently attached to the can light. I thread the can with the crotch strap. It sits just bellow the butt plate.

I was doing the same for a while but decided it was overkill and I really like to get rid of as much unneccesary crap as possible.
With a small light can I find that threading it through the crotch strap through a tight 2" piece of webbing on the can is enough to hold it securly in position but also allow for adjustments on the fly.
You can still slide the can up and down the crotch strap to get positioning just right which for me is right at the top of the thighs under my butt so that it is in the lowest profile position possible.
It does not slide at all from side to side or roll up and down which i find really irritating and has never got caught up on anything.
It also stays in position if I need to be on my side or upside down rather than dangling and swinging around and sliding to and fro.
In the unlikely event it did get caught you can slide it up or down on the crotch strap to release it or in a worst case scenario cutt the webbing loop with a z knife to completely free the can.
Once you have dealt with the problem just stuff the can back under the crotch strap for the exit.

SMB

03-14-2009, 01:12 PM

If I end up having to so somethign like this I will need to get my light cord changed to something longer

It is not a big deal to change a light cord and should not be too expensive either.
The money will be well spent for more comfortable diving

Diverlee

03-14-2009, 07:09 PM

Have a look at this solution.
Simple, easy, cheap and you can customise the length to whatever you want so the cannister sits in exactly the right place.
I like that method, never thougtht of it. May have to try it out although I have never had any trouble with "my way", yet.

SMB

03-14-2009, 07:59 PM

I like that method, never thougtht of it. May have to try it out although I have never had any trouble with "my way", yet.

I just really like simple and the simplest solutions always tend to be the most elegant....and I spend way too much time thinking about sm config :)

rchrds

03-15-2009, 02:47 AM

Have a look at this solution.
Simple, easy, cheap and you can customise the length to whatever you want so the cannister sits in exactly the right place.

Yep- that is almost exactly what I used to do- Except one adjustable loop of 550 instead of two separate pieces- this works great- and super easy to remove. I'm not all with running the crotch strap through or over it- but I suppose it would depend on how heavy your pack was- if it was super light, yea, that might be necessary.

Jason

SMB

03-15-2009, 07:33 PM

Yep- that is almost exactly what I used to do- Except one adjustable loop of 550 instead of two separate pieces- this works great- and super easy to remove. I'm not all with running the crotch strap through or over it- but I suppose it would depend on how heavy your pack was- if it was super light, yea, that might be necessary.

Jason

In my experience a big heavy can is far worse than a small light one if it is slopping all over the place.
Running the crotch strap over the can helps to keep it in place and stop it moving around which really irritates me particularly if I am inverted, on my side or upside down.
Still easy to remove if needed although i have never needed too as the position is very low profile and the can is small and really out of the way.

tflaris

03-15-2009, 09:53 PM

I use a hose retainer and attach them to the base of my sidemount bottles. The lights are clipped off to the same bungie cord holding my bolt snap to the cam band strap.

Hope this helps

SMB

03-16-2009, 11:48 PM

I use a hose retainer and attach them to the base of my sidemount bottles. The lights are clipped off to the same bungie cord holding my bolt snap to the cam band strap.

Hope this helps

The previous discussion was about primary light placement and light cord routing.
I assume you are talking about the placement of your back up lights.

Personally I would not attach my backup lights to my tanks. Too much risk of loss or damage particularly when removing and replacing tanks to pass restrictions.

My tanks are removed and replaced more than any other piece of my equipment when diving sm and I want to be able to do that quickly, cleanly and effortlessly.
A bare tank is very clean with nothing to get caught up on and I want them to stay that way.