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marksudellis
08-24-2008, 01:38 PM
I am very new to cave diving it is something that i have wanted to do for a long time. I love doing things everday people don't do, I LOVE the EXTREME!!..i go backpacking a lot...and other outdoor activites. I have many questino like where do i begin, if you could please help me that would be great. E-mail me at markdail2@yahoo.com

Thank You

FW
08-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Check http://www.nsscds.org, or http://safecavediving.com/

One comment, if all you are interested in is extreme sports, go sky diving, or kite surfing, we don't cavedive for thrills.

deepdiver4
08-24-2008, 04:17 PM
could have not said that better!!!!!!!!!

TonyDCaver
08-24-2008, 06:14 PM
That is the exact opposite attitude of what the cave diving community is looking for. I don't want my buddy to some adrenaline junky who is willing to push the limits all the time. Get a snorkel and go freediving or something, stay away from the caves. :diver

RN
08-25-2008, 08:51 PM
Ditto!

ARY
09-25-2008, 08:42 AM
Why do you guys think that skydiving is for thrill, and adrenalin? I would think it is pretty close to what you do, same applies to climbing, base jumping etc. The problem is an attitude. I would think to win in all the mentioned above activities is to survive challenging environment using your skills, experience and equipment and be creative sometimes. None of you become a cave diver in one day neither started scuba diving in a moment. Something attracted you there for the first time. I'm really surprised by your negative reaction to someone interested in sport.

marksudellis, go get next step in your training, it always helps. If you are not scuba diver yet start there first. To extend the list there is also www.gue.com :-)

TonyDCaver
09-25-2008, 08:43 PM
Difference is cave diving is to explore the unknown and encourage the spirit of exploration... Not get hyped up on adrenaline and put lives at risk for no reason other than personal thrill.

netmage
09-25-2008, 09:29 PM
I am very new to cave diving it is something that i have wanted to do for a long time. I love doing things everday people don't do, I LOVE the EXTREME!!..i go backpacking a lot...and other outdoor activites. I have many questino like where do i begin, if you could please help me that would be great. E-mail me at markdail2@yahoo.com

Thank You

Check out the NACD Seminar coming up. (The CDS would be good as well, but it was a few months ago; both agencies are full of some really great members and instructors, so don't get hung up on one vs. the other...) Come, hang out, listen, talk to people, become a part of the community. This is a journey, and you'll find it personally challenging and rewarding.... Not to be rushed, and worth doing properly.

-Tim

aainslie
09-26-2008, 01:39 AM
Difference is cave diving is to explore the unknown and encourage the spirit of exploration... Not get hyped up on adrenaline and put lives at risk for no reason other than personal thrill.

You clearly haven't done competitive skydiving. 4 or 8 way relative work is an extremely tough discipline and no one does it for thrills.

Skydiving, cave diving, racing - all initially look like adrenaline sports but when you take a harder look the good guys are completely calm and focused when they do these sports. Climbing -sheesh, my girlfriend does this with a bunch of the most conservative, risk averse academics I've ever seen. They climb tough stuff - and they don't do it for thrills, they do it for the achievement.

Mark, for adrenaline do what all the kids do - buy a game console and a racing game. Even there teh adrenalin will stop rushing once you get good at it.

stairman
09-26-2008, 05:45 AM
One problem I see with adrenlin and cave diving is your liable to overbreathe your regulator.Then your holding on to the wall trying to deep breathe and calm down.Cave diving may have its dangers,but I take it slow and easy.If you have your advanced OW cert,then take a cavern course next.Thats the first step to the corridor of the flooded caves we love so much.Good Luck!

TonyDCaver
09-27-2008, 02:12 PM
You clearly haven't done competitive skydiving. 4 or 8 way relative work is an extremely tough discipline and no one does it for thrills.

Skydiving, cave diving, racing - all initially look like adrenaline sports but when you take a harder look the good guys are completely calm and focused when they do these sports. Climbing -sheesh, my girlfriend does this with a bunch of the most conservative, risk averse academics I've ever seen. They climb tough stuff - and they don't do it for thrills, they do it for the achievement.

Mark, for adrenaline do what all the kids do - buy a game console and a racing game. Even there teh adrenalin will stop rushing once you get good at it.

You are quite right Andrew, I never have done competitive skydiving :yawinkle:. Do not intend to, atleast for now...

-Tony

wingman
09-27-2008, 02:45 PM
You are quite right Andrew, I never have done competitive skydiving :yawinkle:. Do not intend to, atleast for now...

-Tony

While i have not been jumping in over two decades, i had 500+ jumps and lettered in collegiate sport parachuting, did competitive relative work (3 and 10 man stars) and canopy accuracy jumping and was on a demonstration team...jumping with smoke into stadiums, fairs etc.
Andrew has it right, the sport requires the same sort of attention and concentration that cave diving does. Flying aircraft is also very similar. Once trained it is focus and skill that becomes important.

cave83
09-27-2008, 03:22 PM
I am very new to cave diving it is something that i have wanted to do for a long time. I love doing things everday people don't do, I LOVE the EXTREME!!..i go backpacking a lot...and other outdoor activites. I have many questino like where do i begin, if you could please help me that would be great. E-mail me at markdail2@yahoo.com

Thank You

mark, the reason why everyone is jumping all over you is because of how you worded your post...it is a sport a lot of people take very seriously because if you dont take it seriously, your going to F things up for them...how? by either causing damage to the cave system or getting access to caves restricted because you go off and get yourself killed. god forbid. so when you said "im new to cave diving" it made you sound a little dumb, haha. not that you are..you just need to have above average buoyancy/trim, and have a number of dives before you even consider cavern/cave training.

i think cave diving IS thrilling. i dont think there is anything wrong with that...just as long as your not trying to push limits and set goals...try www.cavediving.com good info, great instructor...just happens to be my instructor...no coincidence there...:roll: good luck