While we're on the subject of pee valves.

[scubasam]

I recently purchased a new dry suit. my old one had the bolt style (unbalanced) and I want to install a new valve on my new suit. what makes the balanced one any better?


Thanks Sam

[crazyduck]

I recently purchased a new dry suit. my old one had the bolt style (unbalanced) and I want to install a new valve on my new suit. what makes the balanced one any better?


Thanks Sam

Keeps you from swimming at atrange angles. HEHEHEHE

Andrew

[scubasam]

I hope you are better at editing "overhead times" than you are at editing your "atrange" posts on this forum. LOL

[crazyduck]

I hope you are better at editing "overhead times" than you are at editing your "atrange" posts on this forum. LOL

nITrOGEn hAS nO lOnG Teurm eFFECTS- dOES IT? HEHEHEHEH

I did edit that error but the system did not seem to take, oh well.

Recently I was hanging out at a dive shop and a friend/ new diver was checking out my buddies older dry suit. I asked her to make sure that the pressure bolt (pee bolt) was open so there would be no residual pressure in the suit. Boy, she was pissed when she found out what she had been playing with. Teach her to start playing with things she knows nothing about. HEHEHEHEHE

I am in the same boat; new drysuit and trying to decided what to do. For now I am ok wearing depends, depending on dive time I might look into a pee valve. One thing is for sure, I am replacing the hosing with Pneumatic semi ridge hosing to stop any kinks.

Has anyone considered putting in a pressure release valve connected to a bag to stop the kind of thing from ever happening again?

Andrew

[DeWayne]

I hope you are better at editing "overhead times" than you are at editing your "atrange" posts on this forum. LOL

nITrOGEn hAS nO lOnG Teurm eFFECTS- dOES IT? HEHEHEHEH

I did edit that error but the system did not seem to take, oh well.

Recently I was hanging out at a dive shop and a friend/ new diver was checking out my buddies older dry suit. I asked her to make sure that the pressure bolt (pee bolt) was open so there would be no residual pressure in the suit. Boy, she was pissed when she found out what she had been playing with. Teach her to start playing with things she knows nothing about. HEHEHEHEHE

I am in the same boat; new drysuit and trying to decided what to do. For now I am ok wearing depends, depending on dive time I might look into a pee valve. One thing is for sure, I am replacing the hosing with Pneumatic semi ridge hosing to stop any kinks.

Has anyone considered putting in a pressure release valve connected to a bag to stop the kind of thing from ever happening again?

Andrew

Reminds me of the cheerleader back in HS who discovered the bowl of mountain oysters in the AG dept frig one day. Should have seen her face when she finally realized why so many of us were grinning as she played around with and fondled them. It was a busy day at the ranch the day prior 8)

[scubasam]

I definately want to install a p-valve, to me its amazing how much stress is "relieved" when you stop and take care of business in a tense situation. I have already ordered a balanced valve because I got it at cost from my friends dive shop and it was only about 30.00 more than the bolt style.

[rchrds]

Has anyone considered putting in a pressure release valve connected to a bag to stop the kind of thing from ever happening again?

Andrew

If you use the proper tubing (tygon, or a fairly rigid similar tubing) and the valve is installed in the correct direction, and you leave a large enough loop for proper routing, you will never have a kink. (of the pee-valve tube kind, anyway.) But always make sure that you clear the air from the line (or leave the bolt loose) prior to descending- I seem to remember someone receiving any ugly bruise that way once... hehe

rchrds

[IowaCaveDiver]

I've had a halcyon balanced p-valve in both of my suits and never had a problem.... they are awesome! (and well worth the cost) I sometimes find that I use the valve more out of the water than in the water because I'm too lazy to get out of the suit between dives.... it doesn't help make friends though, so be carefull where you relieve yourself. Happy diving and peeing.

-Matt Myers

[DeWayne]

I've had a halcyon balanced p-valve in both of my suits and never had a problem.... they are awesome! (and well worth the cost) I sometimes find that I use the valve more out of the water than in the water because I'm too lazy to get out of the suit between dives.... it doesn't help make friends though, so be carefull where you relieve yourself. Happy diving and peeing.

-Matt Myers

If there is a water hose near by just go over and turn it on then make everyone think that you are washing sand off of your suit. Works really well at JB 8)

[fun2dive]

So much for thinking spring water was fresh and clean! :-D

[Genesis]

Taking your reg out for a drink while diving is a very bad idea if the diver in front of you appears to be halted for a minute and concentrating on something :lol:

I sometimes find that I use the valve more out of the water than in the water because I'm too lazy to get out of the suit between dives....

It was something like 30 degrees out last weeked. We were waiting for one of the captains to tie in the new moring. We were all suited up, and there wasn't a chance in hell I was going to wrestle out of stuff and unhook. I wasn't about to jump in the water before my dive in any way, shape or form.

Over the transom I go, onto the swim platform.

"Dude, what are you doing?", says Soggy.

I just moan and grin

"You just pissed on their boat!?!"

"Dude, it's gonna get dunked in the ocean pretty damn quick!"

He was just jealous

[normblitch]

Taking your reg out for a drink while diving is a very bad idea if the diver in front of you appears to be halted for a minute and concentrating on something


Being of the Age...

Didn't Frank Zappa mention this in a song that went "watch out where the Huskies go; don't you eat..."

Norm

[traveler]

Taking your reg out for a drink while diving is a very bad idea if the diver in front of you appears to be halted for a minute and concentrating on something


Being of the Age...

Didn't Frank Zappa mention this in a song that went "watch out where the Huskies go; don't you eat..."

Norm

"Why does it hurt when I pee?" from Joe's Garage seems apropos for the thread this branched from...

[OFG-1]

OK, This one is for DeWayne:

"Here's to pee, so amber and pure, though not as sweet as beer (or a woman's lips) a damn sight less grief, and a lot more relief"

Or something like that.

[DeWayne]

Hey, I like that 8)

[REastman]

I hope you are better at editing "overhead times" than you are at editing your "atrange" posts on this forum. LOL

LOL...Nnihtog to do wtih cvae dnivig, but srot of rnavelet to the psot.

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the
olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a
porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt.

Hvae not raed any SID ptsos lletay!!!

LOL....

[ericfine50]

Anyone have any comments on the new Halcyon P-Valve or the DR ?

Thanks

[aw]

what makes the balanced one any better?


When I bought my drysuit from EE, the guy told me the balanced one lets you take a leak at depths below 200 ft. I don't know if he was joking or if the unbalanced ones really won't let you. Don't know. I bought the balanced one. So it's the only kind I've ever owned.

[John L.]

A pee valve can also keep you from getting dehydrated, leadind to a DCS hit. With it, you can drink and pee whenever. I even have a unbalanced one in my 7 mil wetsuit. Speaking of Zappa,
"my wetsuit bootie was too tight,
I could'nt get it off last night,
A week went by,
and now it's July,
I finally got it off, and my girlfriend cried...
YOU'VE GOT STINKFOOT!"

[Jordan]

I recently purchased a new dry suit. my old one had the bolt style (unbalanced) and I want to install a new valve on my new suit. what makes the balanced one any better?


Thanks Sam

Heard a little story about why the balancing chamber came about from some old farts...

Back in the day (as noted above by rchrds) the p-valve tubing was too flexible and the suit squeeze would squeeze the tubing shut, so they added balancing chambers.

Nowadays, all tubing is stiff enough so they're not necessary (don't you girls go thinking of something else here, now). Everybody thinks you need a balancing chamber so... I don't know - I dive a balanced.

Anybody have any good reasons why to dive a balanced???

[jpdiver]

A balanced valve won't flood your suit if the condom comes off ; the un-balanced will. But if you keep the screw in and only loosen it when you go, that is not a problem. Also, the un-balanced can cause a backup of urine and potentially cause infections but I have never heard of it happening. The Halcyon balanced version, has a large check valve on the thigh which I find somewhat annoying. Dive- rite has a balanced valve with the check valve at the exit hole which is better but very expensive.

[divindoubles]

I hope you are better at editing "overhead times" than you are at editing your "atrange" posts on this forum. LOL

LOL...Nnihtog to do wtih cvae dnivig, but srot of rnavelet to the psot.

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the
olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a
porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt.

Hvae not raed any SID ptsos lletay!!!

LOL....


Daunt trussed spiel chick too fined awl yore miss takes...

[Angie Reim]

Also, the un-balanced can cause a backup of urine and potentially cause infections but I have never heard of it happening.

Oh yes it can!!! There was a diver here hospitalized with a nasty infection. His pee-valve hose was kinked or collapsed. I do not know whether it was a balanced or unbalanced version. Since he posted here to warn folks about it I'll try to remember the name. I hope I get it right. I think it was Mark somebody. He and his wife Annette are big advocates for the Manatee Spring system.

[DeWayne]

That would be Mark Long connected with Manatee. I thought it was Mark Ashley that got the infection from his P-valve a while back.

[Angie Reim]

That would be Mark Long connected with Manatee. I thought it was Mark Ashley that got the infection from his P-valve a while back.

Well there you go. My memory isn't what it used to be --- I think.

The story is true. The names have been changed because , well, consider the source. :lol:

[DeepSea]

Anybody have any good reasons why to dive a balanced???

If you don't flushing your pipes with alcohol (or whatever) bacteria will build up between dives. If you are diving and start your flow before opening the bolt and there is some manner of back pressure you can easily get a Urinary Tract Infection (UTI)...VERY painful!

[curtschu]

With all the problems that might occur.. Backups, losing the cath, Flood
Why would I bother? Would the depends be a better option?
I am just getting my first Tri-Lam drysuit so I really am interested in the Pros and cons I figure that worst part of the Depends is buying then :-D
I know from when my daughter was in dipers that those sucker hold a lot of water.

Curt

[Angie Reim]

With all the problems that might occur.. Backups, losing the cath, Flood
Why would I bother? Would the depends be a better option?
I am just getting my first Tri-Lam drysuit so I really am interested in the Pros and cons I figure that worst part of the Depends is buying then :-D
I know from when my daughter was in dipers that those sucker hold a lot of water.

Curt

I don't have a problem with the Depends. Work just fine. Then again, I don't have much choice. At a $1 a piece not too pricey either.

The worst part WAS just accepting the buy and wearing of them. Sort of a 'see your future' moment. cryingxxx

[Dan Thoms]

It feels weird, un-natural, the mind is telling me im going to urinate all over my stomach, yes i still hold it :( . Why you ask, becuase for some damn reason, it feels like im trying to pee through a 1/8th vacume line. When are they going to install that porta-john???

[John L.]

You can have fun at the tailgate by putting some peanut butter in the diaper, and digging some out after the dive! :D

[jeandiver]

You can have fun at the tailgate by putting some peanut butter in the diaper, and digging some out after the dive! :D

Oh , now that's just WRONG !!!! :oops:

Jean

[Jordan]

I've had a halcyon balanced p-valve in both of my suits and never had a problem.... they are awesome! (and well worth the cost) I sometimes find that I use the valve more out of the water than in the water because I'm too lazy to get out of the suit between dives.... it doesn't help make friends though, so be carefull where you relieve yourself. Happy diving and peeing.

-Matt Myers

I knew we wouldn't make it through this thread without IowaCaveDiver making an appearance....He is the king of pee-valves and all things pee-related.