NSS-CDS MO Workshop

[SLIM]

The dates have been set for September the 20th. In Poplar Bluff MO once again.

Try to keep the time clear and as more info about the workshop comes it will get passed along.

SLIM


Missouri Mini-Workshop
Poplar Bluff, Missouri


Entry Fee- $30


Sept 19th social at Poplar Bluff Holiday Inn from 6pm 9pm.
This is a great chance to meet other cave and cavern divers.


Sept 20th workshop held at Perkins Restaurant in Poplar Bluff, MO. From 8:30am 4:30pm.
Lunch will be provided.


Sept 21st is the time to Discover the Rebreather for $25. This will be at the Poplar Bluff coliseum in the pool. After this we will be diving Cannonball cave in Wappapello Lake.


Agenda


Welcome- Ed Pavey



Chairman- Kelly Jessop
Plus - In situ fauna counts



"Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Altitudes" - Jo Schaper
Comparing Missouri and Florida Springs



Side mounting- Marc Leonard



OCDA- Shannon Wallace



Comparison on CO2 absorbent work of breathing / CO2 issues in Technical Diving - Gene Melton



Cave videography- Becky Kagan


Prizes and Drawings


Pre-register by sending $30 to:
NSS-CDS Administrative Office, 295 NW Commons Loop, Suite 115-317, Lake City, FL 32055
Be sure to mention Missouri Mini-Workshop


Make checks payable to NSS-CDS
You can also pay at the door.

[deepairmike]

good job last year!!!! looking forward to this year.

[FW]

It is on the NSS-CDS website, under "Events". Please keep bugging Ed for more info for the website :-)

[SLIM]

Thanks FW I was also thinking I should put this in the CDS section on here.

I will be bugging him along with a few others to get things posted or sent to me so I can post them ASAP to keep things going. I know that he has like maybe 2 speakers that are still iffy right now but as time gets neerer more and more will be posted.

Maybe this time we will get RBD dive in.

SLIM

[Bill Rotella]

Hell Yea! I will definately see you in September!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wrotella/2unk1.jpg

[Line Squirrel]

I've been to Missouri...that don't look like the Rubidoux I remember :wink:


Hell Yea! I will definately see you in September!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wrotella/2unk1.jpg

[Bill Rotella]

I've been to Missouri...that don't look like the Rubidoux I remember :wink: Cannon Ball! LOL

It will be nice to be back since I made the very first workshop, but missed the last two because of work.

[FW]

Decide where and we can move this thread if you want. We would like to keep it in one spot otherwise your going to get a bunch of cross posting. You'll just end up answering the same questions twice in allot of cases.

It's up to you as to where to put this but I would suggest here rather than the CDS forum since it's is a semi-private forum? Only a suggestion.
This is a good place for it. I will put an announcement, and link in the NSS-CDS forum.

[SLIM]

That must be a pic of the section that still has not been mapped yet and is so deep that we did not see all the stash of gear they used to get there with.

SLIM

[MichaelAngelo]

Hey Slim
Time to draw the otherside of the deep restriction this year?
MA

[SLIM]

You know it buddy. Will have to try and work on that. Will depned on how many I have to guid some others around. No worry we will all have a great time.


SLIM

[MichaelAngelo]

Slim
looking forward to it.
MA

[scubadam67]

slim have you been to cannonball lately we were thinking of going in a couple weeks.

[SLIM]

Nope I have not been bye.

I know about the trip.

Hmm lets see, there has been a lot of rain and unlike what they have had down there in FL, it has ben both a soaking rain and some hard fast rain. Then there is all the snow and ICE that the area has gooten.

Well, I plan to have my GF drive bye a few days before the trip to see if there is a boil comming out.

SLIM

[ed pavey]

It is on the NSS-CDS website, under "Events". Please keep bugging Ed for more info for the website :-)

I am starting to get the agenda filled up...

Kelly Jessop.... CDS chairman
Forrest Wilson.....History of Cave Diving
Slim.........Side Mounting
Becky Kagan...... Cave Video
Shannon Wallace...... OCDA
Kelly Jessop.... CDS chairman


More to come....

Ed

[FW]

Thanks Ed. I will copy this the the NSS-CDS website too.

[ed pavey]

Entry Fee- $30


Sept 19th social at Holiday Inn from 6pm –9pm. This is a great chance to meet other cave and cavern divers.

Sept 20th workshop held at Perkins Restaurant. From 8:30am – 4:30pm.
Lunch will be provided.

Sept 21st is the time to Discover the Rebreather for $25. This will be at the Poplar Bluff coliseum in the pool. After this we will be diving Cannonball cave in Wappapello Lake.

Missouri Mini-Workshop
Agenda

Welcome- Ed Pavey
Chairman- Kelly Jessop
Cave Diving History- Forrest Wilson
Side mounting- Marc Leonard
OCDA- Shannon Wallace
Comparison on CO2 absorbent work of breathing / CO2 issues in Technical Diving - Gene Melton
Cave videography- Becky Keagan


Prizes and Drawings

[FW]

Ed,

Which rebreather(s) will be in the Discover Rebreathing event?

[SLIM]

Bet it will be the Optima.

I know that Mike and I will be busy already diving in CB or RBD.

SLIM

[Line Squirrel]

This is waaaaaay too early for me to commit but if all the planets were to line up just right is there anybody from North Central Florida that would like to split travel expenses?

Gasoline, hotel room, time behind the wheel? There may be some other misc. expenses I'm not thinking about that should be split.

I'll take my van.

[SLIM]

Never to early but a good idea to get started. I wish I could help out more Mr Mike but right now the B&B is full if everyone comes and stays that has mentioned. I know of at least 1 meal you wont have to worry about. Maybe 2 if there is enough left over to be taken up to CB to snack on.

SLIM

[Line Squirrel]

SLIM - I'm not all that familiar with the area, although I did Dive Roubioux and stayed at the Star Motel? I think it was. That worked out just fine for me last time.

Is this whole shindig in the same area?

[SLIM]

Yup the Star is about 2-3 hours drive away. The whole shindig is in one area. The small town of Poplar Bluff.

CB is about 30 minutesnorth of Poplar Bluff and is a must see place to dive. just ask Bill Rotelia.

SLIM

[Line Squirrel]

So it sounds like Poplar Bluff rather than Waynesville is where I need a hotel.

Any suggestions for cheap accommodations?

[Kelly Jessop]

So it sounds like Poplar Bluff rather than Waynesville is where I need a hotel.

Any suggestions?

Mike
Poplar Bluff has a lot of motels which can found when doing a search (Town is about the size of Lake City). I stayed in the Drury Inn last year,but the site of the workshop is a restaurant and motel.
http://www.bullwinklesrusticlodge.com/ stay here and you can stay with Rocky,Boris,Nastasha :-)

Slim-any chance of negotiating better rates with one of the local motels?

[ed pavey]

If anyone has something they would like to offer or add to the workshop? Let me know..

I wll start contacting companies to sponsor this years event... Those of you who want to sponsor should contat me at the shop. 573/778-3483 Tables will be available..

All indications are that this will be the largest workshop to date in the midwest.. Numbers are growing everyday.. Come meet all of your customers in the Midwest.. Or come make some new ones???? If you dare!!!!!!!! HA!! HA!! ( Is that a challenge?) You bet your
fu fu divers it is....

[ed pavey]

Ed,

Which rebreather(s) will be in the Discover Rebreathing event?

I have commitments from dive rite, But we are not exclusive, we are inclusive..

All are welcome as long as there is a qualified instructor to conduct the activities...

The manufactures should let me know ahead of time so we can plan for it...

Ed

[ed pavey]

Mike
Poplar Bluff has a lot of motels which can found when doing a search (Town is about the size of Lake City). I stayed in the Drury Inn last year,but the site of the workshop is a restaurant and motel.
http://www.bullwinklesrusticlodge.com/ stay here and you can stay with Rocky,Boris,Nastasha :-)

Slim-any chance of negotiating better rates with one of the local motels?

Dury has said they have special rates.. which also owns the Pear Tree Inn

[Kelly Jessop]

Dury has said they have special rates.. which also owns the Pear Tree Inn


Ed
What is the name of the motel that has Perkins that you use for the workshop?
Thanks
Kelly

[ed pavey]

Ed
What is the name of the motel that has Perkins that you use for the workshop?
Thanks
Kelly

GuestHouse Inn Poplar Bluff
2115 N. Westwood Blvd.
Poplar Bluff, MO 63901
Local Phone: (573) 785-7711
Web Site: www.guesthouseintl.com
National Reservation Center: 800-214-8378

[ed pavey]

I contacted most manufacturers and some other agencies about sponsorships and donations today.... If you have contacts at the manufactures pull strings for donations....

This workshop is about socializing, learning and supporting the best cave conservation organization in the world.. Call the manufacturer's about giving back....

I still have a big roll of tickets.......

I have 10 do I hear 15, now 20,20,20, now 25 Sold for 25.....

[rchrds]

You're fn kidding me... I had no idea how close you are to me. I fly to Sikeston all the time- and there is lots of cave over there?!?! Dang.

Ed, if you need presenters, I (and possibly Marbry Hardin) can talk about Tennessee cave diving.

Jason Richards

[FW]

You're fn kidding me... I had no idea how close you are to me. I fly to Sikeston all the time- and there is lots of cave over there?!?! Dang.

Ed, if you need presenters, I (and possibly Marbry Hardin) can talk about Tennessee cave diving.

Jason Richards
At one time, MO had the 2nd most cave dives in the US. I think TN is about to pass them, though :-D

Still, a great place to cavedive!

[ed pavey]

Skip has agreed to do a water testing presentation at the workshop...

Thank Skip

[ed pavey]

Becky is thinking about a filming class Still or motion if anyone is interested.... Let her or I know if you are in... This will be held on Thurs, or Friday..... Your input is important for this class.....

We are getting closer to the Big date..... Let Gwen know if you are coming.... Pay now or pay later at the workshop......


Pre-register by sending $30 to:
NSS-CDS Administrative Office, 295 NW Commons Loop, Suite 115-317, Lake City, FL 32055
Be sure to mention Missouri Mini-Workshop


Make checks payable to NSS-CDS
You can also pay at the door.

[ed pavey]

I communicated with Becky and she says she can have more people in the photo/video class.. Friday @1:00 pm.... $200 to learn from one of the best.... Bring your photos and share.. Come and learn..

Ed

[skip]

Skip has agreed to do a water testing presentation at the workshop...

Thanks Skip

You're welcome Ed!

However, if you wanted someone to do a presentation on tennessee caves and/or tennessee cave diving, then you can't do better than Marbry or Jason or Chrissy.

-skip

[ed pavey]

That is up to you Vol's... What every you think... People I talked to were interested in the water testing..

Ed



You're welcome Ed!

However, if you wanted someone to do a presentation on tennessee caves and/or tennessee cave diving, then you can't do better than Marbry or Jason or Chrissy.

-skip

[skip]

--

I'd like to add Mark Wenner too. Now if you could get them all to show up, well then, it would be a show! I see that FW is attending - so let's add fuel to that fire!

I think the union of MO and TN would make for a very interesting coalition. The underground underwater systems between the two are the new cave diving frontiers. We have more undiscovered, discovered but virgin, possible virgin passages in known systems, than anywhere else on the planet. We are the future of cave diving.

ooops. too much beer.

bye,


-slp[

[SLIM]

We need to work on that for next years. Maybe we can get TN vs MO and some of its new frontier that many have been working on so that we can show that FL and MX is not the only place to cave dive.

Looks like we have a busy schedual for this year and maybe next year we can make it a 2 day event 1 main day and then Sunday with greak out sesions.

SLIM

[mwenner]

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I'd like to add Mark Wenner too. Now if you could get them all to show up, well then, it would be a show! I see that FW is attending - so let's add fuel to that fire!

Thanks Skip! I'm planning on being there. Sound's like a good workshop, so I'm excited about it. Would love for my schedule to work out.

[FW]

Notice change in agenda.

I am going to drag Mark up there, kicking and screaming :-D

[ed pavey]

We did not get the rain that the rest of the state got.. I will post conditions on Cannonball as soon as I can..

[FW]

We did not get the rain that the rest of the state got.. I will post conditions on Cannonball as soon as I can..
Great news!

[sarge89]

Ed and I dove cannonball this morning and installed the jumps at the top of the pit. Visibility is in the 50 foot range and flow is as usual. Look forward to everyone coming to PB to dive cannonball. :arrowgreen

[ed pavey]

The weather is beautiful and Cannonball is calling... Vis is great, 50 ft.. The food will be great and the company questionable.. I look foward to seing everyone tonight and tommorrow.. And will miss those not able to make it

[WJH]

What a great weekend! Thanks to all the presenters for their time and trouble.
Also a big thanks to Ed @ Ozark Dive Co. both for hosting the event and for providing boat rides to the Cannonball Cave dive site.
Enjoyed everyone's company, and can't wait to do it again next year.

WJH

[ed pavey]

That thanks needs to go to Earnie and Mitch not me.. They were the bus drivers..
And I want to thank all that came and presented.... We are already working on next years
agenda and have promised Skip to have more on, what is that long narrow state he is from.... No!!! Tennessee.. I want to try to have more hands on workshops leading up to the sitdown workshop next year.. So save a few extra vacation days for next year,,

Let me know your ideas early because I will try to have everything set early....

Ed

[FW]

It was a great Workshop, and most of us got a couple of dives in. The speakers were excellent, and the lunch was good. There was a great barbecue afterwards, at one member's home.

Thanks to Ed for putting this on, and Sharon for inviting that whole group to her place for a barbecue. Also thanks to all the speakers, some of which drove hundreds of miles to attend.

[deepdiverbob]

I had a great time. Thank you Ed, for hosting the event. Thank you to all the speakers as well. Thank you to Ernie, Mitch, Heidi and the rest of the Ozark Dive Co for the boat rides and gas fills at all hours of the night/morning. Thank you Sharon for the bbq after the event. Thank you Cal for allowing me to win the two mugs. Thank you to Ed, Ernie and Bill for the excellent dive buddies. Thank you NSS-CDS, for everything you have done, are doing and will do in the future.

I hope I didnt leave anyone out. If I did, well...thank you too.

[rkij]

PIX?!?!?!:yawinkle::smt079

[deepdiverbob]

PIX?!?!?!:yawinkle::smt079

working on it

[MichaelAngelo]

It was a great weekend
Thanks to Ed and the rest of the folks at Ozarks dive.
Thank You Sharon for You great hopitality
Thanks Slim for being the great buddy You are.
Thanks Mike Young for acting as safty diver for me during my deep dive.
finally thanks Skip for budding up with me
MA

[skip]

sounds like all or most of the thank you's have gone full round, but there many who made the talks, and the dives, much more enjoyable who have not been mentioned. I can not mention them all, cause I simply do not remember their names won't even try. Still I hope my smiles and nods at the time will now become thank yous on the forum.

we had a great time and a whole lot of it was due to nameless divers who were there to listen, learn, help out, and talk about cave diving practices, techniques, equipment, approaches, and the basics of cave life, hydrogeology and comparative analysis of florida and missouri springs (thanks to jo for a great talk), and newly discovered, explored, surveyed, and charted caves in the Ozarks.

It is always enlightening and heartening to see so much activity in the southern midwest. many organizations claim national status, but few actually include the nation. Local Mini-Conferences are the ideal way to acknowledge local cave diving and to extend a national organization to the nation.

Next year I'd llike to see more Tennessee divers on the talk list, maybe two days of talks instead of one, more Texas divers too, and more on the life/biology of cave environments. And some divers from Florida would be nice to invite...jablonski? irvin? rhea? any gue instructor? let's see what they have to say too. Maybe some talks on training? And some on Dive planning (although gene melton's talks on CO2 was eye-opening, cutting edge, forgotten gas) would be nice too.

well, what I mean is thanks to all, had a great time and special thanks to Mike (unkown last name, smart car owner) for his unexpected, but always on-target presence, during our deep dive.

-skip

thanks to all.

[SLIM]

Thank you Skip for comming. I was just thinking the same thing. Make it 2 days. I was thinking in some about training, keping up the skills since we seem to have a new trend of accidents. Maybe a few rooms to have some breatk out sections so that we can all sit at teh round table and talk about info and share it with each other.

Hmm guess Ed will be busy getting it all set 12 months can go fast and yet not be fast enough.

SLIM

[deepdiverbob]

Thank you Skip for comming. I was just thinking the same thing. Make it 2 days. I was thinking in some about training, keping up the skills since we seem to have a new trend of accidents. Maybe a few rooms to have some breatk out sections so that we can all sit at teh round table and talk about info and share it with each other.

Hmm guess Ed will be busy getting it all set 12 months can go fast and yet not be fast enough.

SLIM

I like the idea of breakout sessions. I would like to see more offered for the non-cave or cavern divers,too. I dont know how many people I tried to invite, but they looked at the agenda, and it was all way over where they was at at their diving career. I also passed this along to Ed, but I would like to see more on accident analysis. There is always a lesson to be learned from accidents and incidents.

[mrp]

What a great workshop, great dives, wonderful weekend!
Ed, Ernie, Mitch, Heidi you did a great job organizing and hosting this event, thank you so much. I’m already looking forward to the next year meeting.
All the talks were very informative, I’ve learned quite a bit, so big thank you to the speakers for taking time to put the presentations together.
Sharon thank you for the relaxing barbeque evening.
Everybody I met – thank you for the comradery, sharing your dive stories, equipment tips, information about MO, AR and TN caves, and insights into underwater art.

Robert

[sharon]

Thanks to everyone who came to the house Saturday night! Let me know any time you are in the area and I will have a place for you to stay and a place for your equipment!
Sharon

[ed pavey]

sounds like all or most of the thank you's have gone full round, but there many who made the talks, and the dives, much more enjoyable who have not been mentioned. I can not mention them all, cause I simply do not remember their names won't even try. Still I hope my smiles and nods at the time will now become thank yous on the forum.

we had a great time and a whole lot of it was due to nameless divers who were there to listen, learn, help out, and talk about cave diving practices, techniques, equipment, approaches, and the basics of cave life, hydrogeology and comparative analysis of florida and missouri springs (thanks to jo for a great talk), and newly discovered, explored, surveyed, and charted caves in the Ozarks.

It is always enlightening and heartening to see so much activity in the southern midwest. many organizations claim national status, but few actually include the nation. Local Mini-Conferences are the ideal way to acknowledge local cave diving and to extend a national organization to the nation.

Next year I'd llike to see more Tennessee divers on the talk list, maybe two days of talks instead of one, more Texas divers too, and more on the life/biology of cave environments. And some divers from Florida would be nice to invite...jablonski? irvin? rhea? any gue instructor? let's see what they have to say too. Maybe some talks on training? And some on Dive planning (although gene melton's talks on CO2 was eye-opening, cutting edge, forgotten gas) would be nice too.

well, what I mean is thanks to all, had a great time and special thanks to Mike (unkown last name, smart car owner) for his unexpected, but always on-target presence, during our deep dive.

-skip

thanks to all.

JJ was invited.. I have called down to EE the last 2 years and invited everyone.. All are invited. Only a few choose to come.. And what a few!!!