Anyone want to buy a cave?

[aainslie]

I have an offer in on a property outside Tallahassee. It has a sinkhole on it that's been dove by a few people, amongst them John Kimberl and Nick Leone.

I'm looking to put together a group to buy this. We're looking at people taking chunks of 10% each. The property is going for $120 000, so that's $12k for 10%. You can take mutiple chunks, right now I'm looking at taking 50% of this.

We need to find buyers for the last 20 to 30%. Anyone who is SERIOUSLY interested (i.e. has the cash to pony up on pretty short notice) please PM me.

I intend closing on this in the next few weeks IF we get the buyers together.

The property is an 8 acre subdivision in a development aimed at the horsey crowd. I can PM you a description of John's dives. There is about 3500 feet of line downstream and oly a few hundred upstream - this is VIRGIN, going cave.

Any interest? This has the potential to be part of a pretty big, totally unexplored system. And best of all GUE won't be able to tell you to bugger off! It IS very close to (and may connect to) the system they explored:

http://www.gue.com/Expeditions/WKPP/Updates/wkpp_stmarks2006_01.html

http://www.gue.com/Galleries/Wakulla/naturalbridge/natural_bridge_all21.jpg
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[Slüdge]

Andrew, the links don't work. Maybe that crack about somebody not being able to tell you to bugger off...

[Puttzer]

And what benefits are there to owning 10%?

[stickydeco]

Who in their right mind would ever want to go in on a financial real estate deal with this crowd!?? It would be bad enough with family, let alone this bunch. Plus, if MF is not the Realtor, I would have serious concerns. Shouldn't "Caves for Sale" go under the Fill Station or some other innocuous discussion thread?

Crazy J.

[defunct]

If this is what I think it is... Nice cave and there is definitely more line to lay.

[Line Squirrel]

Interested? SURE!!

The contract with 6 +/- buyers involved is what concerns me.

Is your intent to pool enough $$$ buy it outright, without a loan?

I would like to hear more...pm me.

[Caver95]

I am one of the REALTORs if you have any questions you can contact me. I have also dived the system. Give me a call and I will let you know everything I know about the proerty.
850-590-5932

[DeepSea]

Would it not make more sense to form an LLP and sell shares of the corporation? Has anyone approached the CDS or NACD?

[aainslie]

Hey all,

1) Links fixed, thanks Sludge!!

2) We'll form an LLC and sell shares. First right of refusal to partners when someone wants to sell.

3) Advantage of 10%? Ironically pretty much the advantage of owning 50% - you get to dive it! There may be an upside on property value but I wouldn't buy it with the kids' college money.

4) Anyone interested PM me or call Nick. He's dived it.

[tomhauburn]

Deleted. PM sent to WP

[Mike Edmonston]

Hey all,

1) Links fixed, thanks Sludge!!

2) We'll form an LLC and sell shares. First right of refusal to partners when someone wants to sell.

3) Advantage of 10%? Ironically pretty much the advantage of owning 50% - you get to dive it! There may be an upside on property value but I wouldn't buy it with the kids' college money.

4) Anyone interested PM me or call Nick. He's dived it.

Will you be able to dive it if you're not an owner? Can you set that up as a fee (either yearly or per day?) this could recoup the investment capital.

Oh.. Are you going to allow intro divers in doubles? :smt064

Safe diving...

[aainslie]

Who in their right mind would ever want to go in on a financial real estate deal with this crowd!?? It would be bad enough with family, let alone this bunch. Plus, if MF is not the Realtor, I would have serious concerns. Shouldn't "Caves for Sale" go under the Fill Station or some other innocuous discussion thread?

Crazy J.

Jack, please back off. You disrespected me to the point of being banned on TDS, please don't simply start trying to snipe here.

To others,I'm very serious about this property.

[aainslie]

Will you be able to dive it if you're not an owner? Can you set that up as a fee (either yearly or per day?) this could recoup the investment capital.

Oh.. Are you going to allow intro divers in doubles? :smt064

Safe diving...

Hey Mike,

Hmm... sidemount only, what a great idea :)

I don't think fee-based diving would be a good idea. We really want to limit access to this system. And at $20 a day that'd be 6 000 dives, by which time it'd look like Ginnie!!!

It's a pretty advanced cave. Deepish - 130 ft in parts - and a little silty, and upstream has a sidemount only restriction on entrance.

[Mike Edmonston]

Hey Mike,

Hmm... sidemount only, what a great idea :)

I don't think fee-based diving would be a good idea. We really want to limit access to this system. And at $20 a day that'd be 6 000 dives, by which time it'd look like Ginnie!!!

It's a pretty advanced cave. Deepish - 130 ft in parts - and a little silty, and upstream has a sidemount only restriction on entrance.

So what you are saying (and I'm not trying to be a prick here), is that it will be open to the owners and that's it?

Seems even worse of a deal than the WKPP, I guess I'll chalk this one up as yet another cave that I can't dive.

If you change your mind about letting others dive your system, let me know. My NOMAD is ready to go :-D.

Safe diving...

[stickydeco]

Jack, please back off. You disrespected me to the point of being banned on TDS, please don't simply start trying to snipe here.

To others,I'm very serious about this property.

Hey...I'm glad you're serious...but what I said stands. Being that you solicited my answer with your post to begin with...I think IT'S A BAD IDEA AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. If you don't like the answer...don't ask the question.

[aainslie]

Hey...I'm glad you're serious...but what I said stands. Being that you solicited my answer with your post to begin with...I think IT'S A BAD IDEA AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. If you don't like the answer...don't ask the question.

Fair enough.

Regards,

Andrew

[Caver95]

Hey...I'm glad you're serious...but what I said stands. Being that you solicited my answer with your post to begin with...I think IT'S A BAD IDEA AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. If you don't like the answer...don't ask the question.

if your not investing then you are not concerned.

[OFG-1]

One day, the little red cave diver was floundering in the mud when he found a cave
"We should buy this cave, who will help me?", said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver

"Who will help build the steps into the sink?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will", said the little red cave diver

"Who will help pay property taxes and maintenance costs?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver


"Who wants to dive in this cave?", asked the little red cave diver
"I will" said the Mike
"I will" said the Sticky
"Get the cluck-outta-here deadbeats" said the little red cave diver.

[Mike Edmonston]

One day, the little red cave diver was floundering in the mud when he found a cave
"We should buy this cave, who will help me?", said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver

"Who will help build the steps into the sink?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will", said the little red cave diver

"Who will help pay property taxes and maintenance costs?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver


"Who wants to dive in this cave?", asked the little red cave diver
"I will" said the Mike
"I will" said the Sticky
"Get the cluck-outta-here deadbeats" said the little red cave diver.

ROFLMAO!!!

That's a pretty good one. BTW, I would gladly help build the steps and such. As far as property taxes, the little red cave diver can charge a little admission to help alleviate the costs.

[MORGAN]

One day, the little red cave diver was floundering in the mud when he found a cave
"We should buy this cave, who will help me?", said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver

"Who will help build the steps into the sink?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will", said the little red cave diver

"Who will help pay property taxes and maintenance costs?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver


"Who wants to dive in this cave?", asked the little red cave diver
"I will" said the Mike
"I will" said the Sticky
"Get the cluck-outta-here deadbeats" said the little red cave diver.


Never underestimate the value of an education in the classics!

Mike

[contender]

One day, the little red cave diver was floundering in the mud when he found a cave
"We should buy this cave, who will help me?", said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver

"Who will help build the steps into the sink?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will", said the little red cave diver

"Who will help pay property taxes and maintenance costs?" said the little red cave diver
"Not I " said the Mike
"Not I " said the Sticky
"Well I will" said the little red cave diver


"Who wants to dive in this cave?", asked the little red cave diver
"I will" said the Mike
"I will" said the Sticky
"Get the cluck-outta-here deadbeats" said the little red cave diver.


:smt046 You have way too much free time.

[Line Squirrel]

One day, the little red cave diver was floundering in the mud when he found a cave....


Jesus, that was TOO damn funny!! cryingxxx

Then again, I'm one of those evil Libertarians.

[aainslie]

Seems even worse of a deal than the WKPP, I guess I'll chalk this one up as yet another cave that I can't dive.

Safe diving...

The difference is, we'll be limiting access to something we laid down cash for, as opposed to public land.

Plus friends will obviously be going in there. I suspect you get a lot more friends when you get a cave... like the ugly fat guy in junior high who shows up with candy....

[Mike Edmonston]

The difference is, we'll be limiting access to something we laid down cash for, as opposed to public land.

Plus friends will obviously be going in there. I suspect you get a lot more friends when you get a cave... like the ugly fat guy in junior high who shows up with candy....

Well, either way, My offer still stands as far as helping to build steps, or a changing shack, or a BBQ etc... It would be nice to dive in a new(ish) system :-D.

PM me if you would like me to meet you up there and go over plans etc...

Safe diving...

[stickydeco]

:smt046 You have way too much free time.

All y'all crack me up. LOL. OK OK..I could bring the heavy weapons and be a "guard?"

As far as diving goes...if it ain't got heated showers, flush toilets, parking within 100 ft of the water and no silt...well that's a discussion for another day!

Deadbeat Jack

[Caver95]

All y'all crack me up. LOL. OK OK..I could bring the heavy weapons and be a "guard?"

As far as diving goes...if it ain't got heated showers, flush toilets, parking within 100 ft of the water and no silt...well that's a discussion for another day!

Deadbeat Jack

I knew there was a reason I didnt like going to Ginnie

[lamont]

i think i need to take a cave course first before buying a cave...

[FW]

i think i need to take a cave course first before buying a cave...
Somehow, I suspect you aren't the only one :twisted:

[Caver95]

i think i need to take a cave course first before buying a cave...

if you are interested in the property and a cave diving course we can hook you up.
REALTOR and cave instructor at your service.

[OFG-1]

if you are interested in the property and a cave diving course we can hook you up.
REALTOR and cave instructor at your service.


This, boys and girls, is what is referred to as a shameless plug by a money *****.

[Caver95]

This, boys and girls, is what is referred to as a shameless plug by a money *****.

Do you think whoring would make more money?

[OFG-1]

'Goodbye my sons and fare thee well,
I blame yer not yer see,
It's all yer mothers doing lads,
She's had it in for me.'

'You leave our mother out of this!'
We screamed all fury rage,
'At least she's working for her keep
And nearly twice your age!'

'I'd sooner starve than be a *****!'
The old man said, all hurt.
'Immoral earnings aren't for me,
and living off her dirt.'

'She washes everyday,' we said
Together, all at once.
'It's more than can be said for you
Yer dirty little ponce!'


From "Our Dad", by John Lennon

[FW]

if you are interested in the property and a cave diving course we can hook you up.
REALTOR and cave instructor at your service.
Nick, you are real close to violating rule #2....

If I didn't think you were half joking, I would pull the post, and give you a warning.

[imdown]

Do you think whoring would make more money?

If this goes on at the "new" cave you should expect to have the same problem they have at Peacock--picking up all those discarded little things!!

[Wizard]

Nick has been called MANY names, but "money *****" is a new one.