Limewire

[stairman]

Heres a subject that has nothing to do with cavediving,but hey,this is the Fill Station.I am new to computers as well as typewriters but have come a long way.The first thing I ever typed out on a keyboard was a post on this forum.I typed it all in capitol letters thinking that would be easier.I havent done that since.My first e-mail I sent out was to Jill Heinerth.Still dont e-mail much.Ive enjoyed having Google to study different topics and the many tablature sites with lyrics for my guitar.Now Im new to a great tool called Limewire which enables me to download any song I can think of to the Limewire library and listen to them through my pc.This is great.Ive been racking my brains thinking of old bands and songs and then playing them back,this is sooooo cool.I have to wonder about its leagality.After all I am storing the songs in the Limewire library.Now if I were to burn a cd off it,or transfer to an ipod,maybe thats illegal.Maybe its all illegal I dont know.I sure as hell aint selling the music.Im sure record companys as well as the artists are not happy with these sites,and this one is absolutely free.Ive gone back in time and am listening to stuff they dont play on the radio anymore.Many I never would have heard again.

[Webmaster]

Unless Limewire had some sort of blanket agreement , which I doubt because you'd be paying for it and they would pay royalties in return, then it probably is copyright infringement. It looks like just another file sharing app, meaning you're mooching off other people's copies of the songs.

It is legal to publish lyrics and tabs for the purposes of practice and private performances (sitting around with your friends) from what I understand. But if you performed it publicly, like at a bar, then you owe royalties.

[defunct]

You're just offering those other people on Limewire "Free Backup and Archive" services....

[jforder]

limewire uses peer-to-peer sharing, which is what the RIAA and MIPAA have been hauling people into court (when it involves copyrighted material). Be warned, there are several companies that troll the peer-to-peer connections looking for this material, and then turn over the IP addresses to the lawyers for action when it is found. I believe Napster was one of the first of these programs/services, which used a combination of server-based and peer-to-peer services -- it was essentially shut down by the RIAA. I think Limewire avoids the ligitation by removing the server part of the equation. But their site wisely counsels against the unauthorized sharing of copyrighted material.
Regards,
John
PS I am not a lawyer, nor play one on tv, nor have any desire to be one...

[Arnold Mesiser]

Limewire was good..like 5 years ago...too many fake files(RIAA feeds,Trojans etc now.

Torrents are throttled by ISp's now among other trickery

Mp3 blogs are the new black ;) Usenet has always been the darkest black ;)


If your going to download music in the U S of A at least run this program as well

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/


This site will bring you up to speed on various P2P methods

http://www.slyck.com/

[dweyant]

As someone that used to make his living by creating IP (Intellectual Property) I have to comment on this.

1) This is illegal period. Even if you never get caught you are comiting a felony.

2) You are stealing from people that make there living from IP, music, software, etc. This is the same (IMO) as walking into Walmart and walking off with a TV. The only difference is you are probably more likely to get caught at Walmart.

3) RIAA does and is going after people that download music, and not just the BIG fish. They have very succesfully sued a lot of students, parents, etc. I think the average settlement has been around $300 a song (much less than the maximum $10,000 allowed by law), but can easily be 10's of thousands of dollars.

So, take your pick, legal, moral, and ethical arguments as to why you shouldn't be doing this.

Oh, and BTW, I have heard all of the arguments about the music industry is overpaid, it is a monopoly, etc. Yep, probably a lot of it is true, doesn't change the fact you are comiting a felony to save a few dollars on something that is a luxury item.

-Dan

[Arnold Mesiser]

Downloading music in my country is not illegal.

[Daedalus]

You can legally download music (by paying for it) with iTunes. They also have a good selection.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/

[Mike]

I used Limewire back about 5-6 years ago.
My computer crashed twice so removed it.
A woman who just went to court over stealing music files wound up having to pay somewhere around $200,000.00 restitution.
I think it's easier to buy the CD.

Mike

[stairman]

I have removed it as well,the funs over.However the cost of having a virus removed is probably less than the cost of a half dozen cds.Ive also been told by many that limewire is legal as long as your not sharing your downloads online with others.Cds are crap anyway.They scrach and skip for no apparent reason and I get tired of hearing song after song from the same band anyway.Ive heard that I tunes actually sells individual songs for 99 cents each which would be worth it to me.Years ago I used to make cassettes of songs off of friends albums as well as the radio.I dont see much of a difference in that except the cassettes lasted longer.I also used to pay 5.00 for concert tickets.I miss the seventys thats for sure,and new technology is good in some ways and not so good in others.

[DeepSea]

Napster (http://www.napster.com) also has songs for 99¢ if you want to buy them. Additionally, for $9.95/month you can listen to any of their music or download it to your MP3 player -- no other costs. I like the model of not having to buy the song if I don't want to.

[john]

amazon sells them as well mostly for 99 cents but there are some for less also.

[Tegg]

Better artists and cheaper songs...


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