Lighted Cave Hat pt III

[normblitch]

I BELIEVE I have solved the problem of re-directing the lights on my Helmet...used cable strain reliefs and bungee...

I'll be at Devils Eye platform Sunday AM early if any helmet users want to come and scoff... :smt081

Norm

[MikeH]

I'll be at Devils Eye platform Sunday AM early if any helmet users want to come and scoff... :smt081

I think you'll get plenty of that from the divers that see no need/use for a helmet....so you don't need it from any of us.. :-D

Mike

[normblitch]

I'll be at Devils Eye platform Sunday AM early if any helmet users want to come and scoff... :smt081

I think you'll get plenty of that from the divers that see no need/use for a helmet....so you don't need it from any of us.. :-D

Mike

(Actually, I was just looking for critique & comment on adjustments) :roll:

I WISH I was a hi-speed DPV'er or Intrepid RIver Caver...as it happens, I just want hands-free lights for Overhead pic taking and Surveying... ;-)

Norm

[Tegg]

There is no valid reason to use a helmet in a cave... Your skills should be good enough to not use one... :roll:


Well except when surveying, solo diving in REALLY tight passage, decoing in "unstable" areas of a cave and the few others... :P


Personally I just have bungee holding the lights on the helmet and they point straight... seems to work fine like that for me...

[normblitch]

There is no valid reason to use a helmet in a cave... Your skills should be good enough to not use one... :roll:


Well except when surveying, solo diving in REALLY tight passage, decoing in "unstable" areas of a cave and the few others... :P


Personally I just have bungee holding the lights on the helmet and they point straight... seems to work fine like that for me...

(overlooking also the ease of reading gauges, AND working camera housing controls) How else do you mount lights to the cranial areas? :roll: )

It IS possible that when I find the "sweet spot" for both lights, I might go for a non-adjustable (but still bungee-based) mount), but until my "skills" improve to the point that I discover a way to hands-free & efficiently use a low-intensity (non-HID) light, I'll happily wear the lighted cave hat with Pride.

Besides, you just can't put a price on the looks of the OW divers in the Ballroom when they espy 2 noggin-mounted back-ups AND 2 modeling lights... :smt119

Norm

Better Diving through Home-brew Hacks

[Arnold Mesiser]

Well except when surveying, solo diving in REALLY tight passage, decoing in "unstable" areas of a cave and the few others... :P


Sounds like all our caves :D as well flying tree branches/debris at about 3 knots plus in certain sytems.

[D1V3R]

There is no valid reason to use a helmet in a cave... Your skills should be good enough to not use one... :roll:


Well except when surveying, solo diving in REALLY tight passage, decoing in "unstable" areas of a cave and the few others... :P


Personally I just have bungee holding the lights on the helmet and they point straight... seems to work fine like that for me...

i can understand wanting one for directional lighting outside of your main light, thats how the british cavers do it (i think)

[Cindy]

I'm glad you men are finally coming around to convience instead of fashion! It also solves that "now what do I do with my backup light" issue of sidemounting. I'm so used to mine now I feel naked without it! Cindy :D

[Webmaster]

I dove with mine most of the time down there to stay used to it and for the convenience since I don't like screwing light mounts into my skull. Nobody ever said anything to me when I was diving down there in FL with it.

Here, well... I value my head.

[Duncan Price]

There is no valid reason to use a helmet in a cave... Your skills should be good enough to not use one... :roll:


Well except when surveying, solo diving in REALLY tight passage, decoing in "unstable" areas of a cave and the few others... :P


Personally I just have bungee holding the lights on the helmet and they point straight... seems to work fine like that for me...

i can understand wanting one for directional lighting outside of your main light, thats how the british cavers do it (i think)

Nooo. For a start, the majority of british cave dives start underground and you need to cave to get there - there is often caving at the other end. Anyone who dry caves without a helmet is stupid and helmet mounted lights keep your hands free for climbing and the porterage of equipment. A well known US cave diver once suggested that we should wear a helmet to the sump, take it off for the dive and carry it through the water putting it on the other side....I'd rather keep it on my head for the same reason that we often wear rubber boots (Wellington boots) on our feet and slip our fins over these.

A lot of British cave diving is more amphibious caving than diving in caves.

Personally I like to use a hand mounted primary light where practical as there is less backscatter. However, a lot of the time I need both hands free - digging, surveying, negotiating tight passage etc. which is where helmet lights come in.

A lot of our diving is solo or nearly so therefore the "blinding your buddy" and "light signals" business does not come into play.

[Arnold Mesiser]

There is no valid reason to use a helmet in a cave... Your skills should be good enough to not use one... :roll:


Well except when surveying, solo diving in REALLY tight passage, decoing in "unstable" areas of a cave and the few others... :P


Personally I just have bungee holding the lights on the helmet and they point straight... seems to work fine like that for me...

i can understand wanting one for directional lighting outside of your main light, thats how the british cavers do it (i think)

Nooo. For a start, the majority of british cave dives start underground and you need to cave to get there - there is often caving at the other end. Anyone who dry caves without a helmet is stupid and helmet mounted lights keep your hands free for climbing and the porterage of equipment. A well known US cave diver once suggested that we should wear a helmet to the sump, take it off for the dive and carry it through the water putting it on the other side....I'd rather keep it on my head for the same reason that we often wear rubber boots (Wellington boots) on our feet and slip our fins over these.

Same here except our caves are smaller :cry: until you hit the Rockies.We essentially mimic British systems that have been very successful for a considerable amount of time as conditions warrant the flexibilty .I tried dry caving with a goodman as per 'well known persons comments" I knew that it was a bad idea but i tried anyways to humour the comment .WHAT A PAIN IN THE BUTT

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A lot of our diving is solo or nearly so therefore the "blinding your buddy" and "light signals" business does not come into play.

Same here not to mention as in your sytems if you can't see AT ALL how would you protect your head otherwise?and flying debris in subterranean rivers!!!I think the proof is in the pudding so to speak..look at what historically you have accomplished!!

[Duncan Price]

As a late addition, the CDG BBS has a link to a source of Ace Canoe helmets favoured by many and no longer sold by DiveRite.

http://www.mainpeak.com.au/product.aspx?productID=8360

Your choice whether to wear a helmet or not.

[JE]

Go ahead & 'Bang' your bare head one more time on that Stalactite hanging overhead in that tight passageway-! Then maybe you'll appreciate the value of a light-weight helmet mounted on your brain with a couple of back-up lites attached as well-!
I agree, that if you are doing the main passageways in Peacock or other big tunnels, it isn't always necessary to wear one. But then, if its everyday diving & you are comfortable with the helmet on your head, why not-!

8)

Jack