revo

[wingman]

Last week at ginnie got to see a couple of these up close, they have a real nice profile on the back and a sidemount system for bailout seems very appealing. The dream electronics/hud seems ok. Pricewise even with the adverse exchange rate they seem a pretty good deal. The dual scrubbers also looks like a good idea. They looked very well engineered and except for the manual add buttons it all looks like an interesting configuration for cave. Any experience with these, suggestions, criticisms etc.

[Slüdge]

One of my dive buddies uses one of these, sea2summit on this forum. He lives in the Columbus area and goes to JB regularly. I'll mention to him about going to the CDS social on the 3rd.

[Attchoum]

I use my revo in cave

the trim of the unit is super easy, whitch help a lot. It's smaller that a twin set, very low profile.

About sidemounting bailout, that funny, I was online to post a threat on RBW how I sidemount my tank.
http://www.rebreatherworld.com/revo-rebreather/29203-pimp-my-revo-for-sidemounting-bailout.html#post281615

The dual scruber is good for 3 hours on one canister and 5 hours on both. Well, in my cenote water, I don't know how cold is the cave in florida.

people are afraid to not reach the add button easy enough in a cave. I have to say it's not a issue for me. I never get in a situation that I cannot reach my button. Beside, if your unit is adjusted correctly, you will press the o2 add button around every 10-15 minutes at constant depth. For the diluent, the automatic valve work super nicely.

The revo have a lot of strong advantage when you start compared it. I definitely don't regret my choice and will do over if I had too.

Fell free to ask any question here or in PM.

Etienne

[sea2summit]

Russell called me his dive buddy:smt100

Hey Wingman, where you the guy that met up with Mel?

They are great units. What did you not like about the manual add buttons? Like Etinne said I've never had an issue reaching them and have done two AL 80's side mounted several times. I do believe they are the lowest profile unit out there right now and I also noticed on my last trip that the Meg and KISS both have a distinct lip that seems to catch on everything when stuff get's tight but the rEvo has a more rounded profile, I'm sure it was an accident but it works great in caves.

Sadly I will not make the social as bad as I want to.

Josh

[pharmbob]

We have been using our rEvos in the caves for 2 and 1/2 years. They are very robust, and we have had no problems accessing the diluent or oxygen add buttons in the caves, even using 2 bail out cylinders side mounted.

[Diverlee]

For those of you who take the rEvo into the caves I have a question. I want to take a buddy of mine (Full CCR Cave on the rEvo) to Jug hole. I have been there several times, he never has. Question is... I think he could get through the diamond restriction if he took off his BO bottle and pushed it through first. What do you think.
Objective being NO damage to cave. Thanks!

[wingman]

I use my revo in cave

the trim of the unit is super easy, whitch help a lot. It's smaller that a twin set, very low profile.

About sidemounting bailout, that funny, I was online to post a threat on RBW how I sidemount my tank.
http://www.rebreatherworld.com/revo-rebreather/29203-pimp-my-revo-for-sidemounting-bailout.html#post281615

The dual scruber is good for 3 hours on one canister and 5 hours on both. Well, in my cenote water, I don't know how cold is the cave in florida.

people are afraid to not reach the add button easy enough in a cave. I have to say it's not a issue for me. I never get in a situation that I cannot reach my button. Beside, if your unit is adjusted correctly, you will press the o2 add button around every 10-15 minutes at constant depth. For the diluent, the automatic valve work super nicely.

The revo have a lot of strong advantage when you start compared it. I definitely don't regret my choice and will do over if I had too.

Fell free to ask any question here or in PM.

Etienne

Thanks for the reply i will check out the rbw post, i have been looking at the revo info there as well. Id, just like to add it to my current oc sidemount rig. Bill

[wingman]

Russell called me his dive buddy:smt100

Hey Wingman, where you the guy that met up with Mel?

They are great units. What did you not like about the manual add buttons? Like Etinne said I've never had an issue reaching them and have done two AL 80's side mounted several times. I do believe they are the lowest profile unit out there right now and I also noticed on my last trip that the Meg and KISS both have a distinct lip that seems to catch on everything when stuff get's tight but the rEvo has a more rounded profile, I'm sure it was an accident but it works great in caves.

Sadly I will not make the social as bad as I want to.

Josh

Yep that was me, she was instucting using the revo at ginnie a week or so ago. I was very impressed with the profile and watched them in the water a bit. I have downloaded the manuals and am trying to get a handle on the elctronics discussion involving the dream vs other hud/electronic alternatives. Don't understand that part just yet. Bill

[sea2summit]

For those of you who take the rEvo into the caves I have a question. I want to take a buddy of mine (Full CCR Cave on the rEvo) to Jug hole. I have been there several times, he never has. Question is... I think he could get through the diamond restriction if he took off his BO bottle and pushed it through first. What do you think.
Objective being NO damage to cave. Thanks!

Haven't been there but the catacombs ceiling at devils there are two holes if I go no mount pushing my tank through first I have to squirm through the first one but can swim through the second one IMHO they are pretty small, I wouldn’t make it through at all backmount OC. Or further in I got through the scraper restriction without touching…okay maybe a little bit.

[sea2summit]

Yep that was me, she was instucting using the revo at ginnie a week or so ago. I was very impressed with the profile and watched them in the water a bit. I have downloaded the manuals and am trying to get a handle on the elctronics discussion involving the dream vs other hud/electronic alternatives. Don't understand that part just yet. Bill

I was the other rEvo there.
I like the dream, people that have been doing the SH HUD for a while like that one. Pretty heated debate but they both do the same thing in the end. I dive two dreams and never had a problem.

[Diverlee]

Haven't been there but the catacombs ceiling at devils there are two holes if I go no mount pushing my tank through first I have to squirm through the first one but can swim through the second one IMHO they are pretty small, I wouldn’t make it through at all backmount OC. Or further in I got through the scraper restriction without touching…okay maybe a little bit.
Thanks, that helps alot. The guy is very thin so shouldn't be a problem. He would even like the challange of no mount. He's done that several times in wrecks and open water, practicing.

[pharmbob]

For those of you who take the rEvo into the caves I have a question. I want to take a buddy of mine (Full CCR Cave on the rEvo) to Jug hole. I have been there several times, he never has. Question is... I think he could get through the diamond restriction if he took off his BO bottle and pushed it through first. What do you think.
Objective being NO damage to cave. Thanks!

Sorry, but I have not been there yet. " I don't get out much" :smt102

I look forward to responses from those who have any insight into this.

[Attchoum]

I use 1 revo dream that read one cell and a shearwater that read 3 not share cell. The revo electronique is desing in a very simple way and a very efficient one.
Principle is basic, it give you a true real redundancy. 2 display that doesn't share anything at all. you can completely rip one off and the unit is still dive safe.

I cannot say about florida, I dive only in mexico:roll:
come join me...

Etienne

[wingman]

come join me...

Etienne

Actually im going to try to get down there sometime in November or early december. Will look you up although may not be rebreather trained by then. Bill

[Attchoum]

everyone should come to mexico at least one in they life time

[jkdiver]

Yep that was me, she was instucting using the revo at ginnie a week or so ago. I was very impressed with the profile and watched them in the water a bit. I have downloaded the manuals and am trying to get a handle on the elctronics discussion involving the dream vs other hud/electronic alternatives. Don't understand that part just yet. Bill

wingman,
I was the other guy there talking with Mel about the revo. I believe I was there a bit earlier than you. but are you looking to take the course with Mel? maybe we can both get her to come down this way to teach it???

Im new to the area. just north of Jacksonville. looking for people to dive with.
anyone interested in diving?
Jim

[stickydeco]

You people are all friggin nuts...taking them Rebreather things into the caves...Particulary you Bill, Mr. Video Professor...."Please buy my videos." ha ha and ha

[RN]

Is the revo a manual or electronic rebreather?

[Marc Bryan]

Standard as a manual, but can be upgraded to a parachute, or full eccr.

[Attchoum]

perfect unit.. it can be what ever you want. eccr, mccr or hccr

[aainslie]

While I don't use one, we have a big crowd that does in Socal. They all love them. And I love how compact it is. The double scrubber assembly, plus the ability to quickly double the scrubber size by a simple swopout, is also fantastic.

The hybrid design is just brilliant. I love the idea of having hte best of both worlds. With two O2 cylinders, this essentially gives you two totally independent control systems for your loop PO2.

If I were choosing again, I would probably choose the Revo.

[scubagrunt]

wingman,
maybe we can both get her to come down this way to teach it???

Jim
you betya Jim, i love coming to florida, waters much warmer than mine here in seattle. :)
see ya next week
mel

[jkdiver]

you betya Jim, i love coming to florida, waters much warmer than mine here in seattle. :)
see ya next week
mel

Mel,

If not in florida MAYBE MEXICO!!!! YEA BABY!!!

We'll get it done somewhere

Jim

[Attchoum]

everyone is welcome in mexico...

See you soon everyone:roll:

Etienne

[OutlawCaver]

As a MEG user, I like the OTS CL, which allows me an assurance that I can do a dil flush to drain a partially flooded loop. I put my left shoulder down (exhalation CL on the left side on MEGs), flush with dil, upright myself and then purge the OPV. Curious to know how the backmounted CL rig users get the same assurance.

[Randy Thornton]

Check out the Hammerhead. It is the ultimate in flexibility - eCCR, hybrid, mCCR, over the shoulder counterlungs or back mounted counterlungs. 6 hour rated radial scrubber. Comes standard with rock solid electronics, great HUD (heads up display)- you don't have to buy a bunch of add ons and you can use your own harness and backplate. I absolutely love mine and I dive it in the caves quite a bit. As far as I'm concerned, its made for cave and technical diving.

Regards,
Slightly biased Randy

[scubagrunt]

Check out the Hammerhead. It is the ultimate in flexibility - eCCR, hybrid, mCCR, over the shoulder counterlungs or back mounted counterlungs. 6 hour rated radial scrubber. Comes standard with rock solid electronics, great HUD (heads up display)- you don't have to buy a bunch of add ons and you can use your own harness and backplate. I absolutely love mine and I dive it in the caves quite a bit. As far as I'm concerned, its made for cave and technical diving.

Regards,
Slightly biased Randy
dito dito and dito on the revo. rock solid electronics and shearwater who can argue that. BMCL that hold a huge amount of water so a flood is very managable, to a point of course, so too is the OTS. comes as hCCR mCCR or eCCR, or all at once :)
4 hrs axial or 6 hr or moreon the radials, and you save lots of sorb and add safety with dual scrubber design.
no add ons needed, just like eveything else some add ons are nice. comes with harness and plate, or you can use your own. i absolutely love mine too and dive it tons in the caves. the revo is made for tech and cave diving!!! besides it fits places other ccrs wont :) cant argue that fact, its thin

sorry randy I could not hold my tongue

mel

[aainslie]

Check out the Hammerhead. It is the ultimate in flexibility - eCCR, hybrid, mCCR, over the shoulder counterlungs or back mounted counterlungs. 6 hour rated radial scrubber. Comes standard with rock solid electronics, great HUD (heads up display)- you don't have to buy a bunch of add ons and you can use your own harness and backplate. I absolutely love mine and I dive it in the caves quite a bit. As far as I'm concerned, its made for cave and technical diving.

Regards,
Slightly biased Randy

Yeah, I love that one too.

And the KISS - so hard to break and so compact.

And the Inspo - I love the temp stick.

Seriously, it's hard to go wrong.

[Martin Robson]

For those of you who take the rEvo into the caves I have a question. I want to take a buddy of mine (Full CCR Cave on the rEvo) to Jug hole. I have been there several times, he never has. Question is... I think he could get through the diamond restriction if he took off his BO bottle and pushed it through first. What do you think.
Objective being NO damage to cave. Thanks!

No too sure he will fit through.

[OutlawCaver]

I am not sold on radial scrubber designs just yet. Although they may present a lower overall system resistive effort than axial scrubbers, I have never seen any testing of their real time scrubbing capability (or efficiency) ... per breath. All I have ever seen is overall duration test results. From a study of the design of a radial scrubber, a portion of the exhaled gas can pass thru a spent sorb path and back into the breathing loop inhalation side, without being completely scrubbed. At least with the axial design, all exhaled gas is forced to pass through the entire length of the scrubber bed with no chance for shorter (possibly spent) routes, albiet, increasing the resistive effort.

[sea2summit]

I am not sold on radial scrubber designs just yet. Although they may present a lower overall system resistive effort than axial scrubbers, I have never seen any testing of their real time scrubbing capability (or efficiency) ... per breath. All I have ever seen is overall duration test results. From a study of the design of a radial scrubber, a portion of the exhaled gas can pass thru a spent sorb path and back into the breathing loop inhalation side, without being completely scrubbed. At least with the axial design, all exhaled gas is forced to pass through the entire length of the scrubber bed with no chance for shorter (possibly spent) routes, albiet, increasing the resistive effort.

???
Standard on the rEvo is axial. You can upgrade to a radial or extended axial if you need it.

[OutlawCaver]

Check out the Hammerhead. It is the ultimate in flexibility - eCCR, hybrid, mCCR, over the shoulder counterlungs or back mounted counterlungs. 6 hour rated radial scrubber. Comes standard with rock solid electronics, great HUD (heads up display)- you don't have to buy a bunch of add ons and you can use your own harness and backplate. I absolutely love mine and I dive it in the caves quite a bit. As far as I'm concerned, its made for cave and technical diving.


I was not referring to any specific rig although the HH was mentioned with a radial scrubber

[Diverlee]

Check out the Hammerhead. It is the ultimate in flexibility - eCCR, hybrid, mCCR, over the shoulder counterlungs or back mounted counterlungs. 6 hour rated radial scrubber. Comes standard with rock solid electronics, great HUD (heads up display)- you don't have to buy a bunch of add ons and you can use your own harness and backplate. I absolutely love mine and I dive it in the caves quite a bit. As far as I'm concerned, its made for cave and technical diving.

Regards,
Slightly biased Randy


I thought you had an Optima?

[Randy Thornton]

I thought you had an Optima?

I've got multiple units. Optima, Sentinel, Inspiration, Evolution and Hammerhead. (I know, I know, I've completely lost my mind!)

At least for right now, the Hammerhead is the one I dive most often in the caves. I do however dive all of them at different times in different situations.