Company Question

[J_glenn06]

OK so im am sure i am about to stir up some stuff with this question but i dont really have anyone else that can give me the information i need. We are in need of a good tech diving line at our store. We were going to take up salvo but we all know where that ended up so then we were going to take up leviathan but we back out because of al the leagal stuff going on. So here is the stired up question Halcyon i dont know that much about GUE or DIR dont really care but does there stuff sell? i have read good things i have read bad things but i wont to know how the cave diving community feels about them?

[SuPrBuGmAn]

Do you have alot of established tech divers going through there?... or do you think you're going to sell to more aspiring tech divers?

Halcyon stuff comes at a high price point, and upcoming divers will probably respond better to a cheaper alternative like Dive Rite, Deep Sea Supply, or Oxycheq.

This is basically me talking out of my ass. I don't have any background in retailing dive gear, but its just how I think it'd go.

[Me]

The shop I teach for lost both Halcyon and Oxycheq because they didn't sell enough of their product to keep the line. It has so frustrated my shop owner and he won't even look at Dive Rite now....totally burned out.

In both cases the company called him and said "place a huge order now, or we're dumping you".

So keep that in mind.

[WJH]

DiveRite has a very complete line of very good products at reasonable prices. Hollis (Oceanic) has come out with a nice line of tech gear that they are pricing very reasonably as well.

WJH

[stairman]

I agree with Bugman but Im talking out mine too. Im wondering why your burned out with DR but Im affraid to ask. For the record I am satisfied being a billboard for Dive Rite and Im glad they exist.

[Meister481]

Dive Rite. Full lineup of gear and easy to deal with. Side mount, back mount doubles and singles, dry suits, lights, fins, masks, computers, regs and about every accessory you can imagine.

[*Ag*]

DR has good gear for sure and reasonably priced too... but as a shop owner you should also look at the service and support you get from the manufacturer. DR spends a lot of effort on ensuring that their dealers get the support they need to sell the product.

http://www.diverite.com/dealers/spotlight/

[cavediver27]

To me the answer is pretty simple: Dive Rite

They have a complete line of quality technical equipment and they have good customer service. I dive with their regulators, spg's, computers, fins, wings, plates, dry suit, reels............you get the picture.

[Slüdge]

I like everything Dive Rite sells except their regulators. (They're the same, tired old design everybody else who doesn't actually make their own reg sells.) But if you carry a high performance line such as Scubapro or Atomic, it won't matter. Just sell everything else they carry.

(Both of the shops I work for are Dive Rite dealers, but neither one sells their regs - one is a Scubapro dealer, the other Atomic Aquatics.)

[Oister]

Maybe you could wait till the dust settles and go with Leviathan. Corey and Joel have always treated me well.

[battles2a5]

From my perspective, if you are selling Halcyon you are selling more than just gear. If you want a complete line that has it all, DR has you covered. If you want to have very good stuff, there are lots of specialty providers; Sartek, Sandho, Mb-sub for lights; Oxycheq, Agir, Golem for wings and other doo-dads, and plenty of the standard providers have the regs, etc. that you would need to fill out the package.

[DogDiver]

Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth. Have you looked at Zeagle, OMS, Reef Scuba, Ralph Hood reels, XS etc. I got hooked on Zeagle regs diving cold water great lakes wrecks and I use a Ranger bcd as my recreational Bcd when I go to the Keys or Roatan. Otherwise my gear looks like a poster for DR. Safe diving. Ken oh ya don't forget DUI.

[Me]

I agree with Bugman but Im talking out mine too. Im wondering why your burned out with DR but Im affraid to ask. For the record I am satisfied being a billboard for Dive Rite and Im glad they exist.

Stairman,

I didn't say I was burned out with DR. I said the shop owner was burned out dealing with Halcyon and Oxycheq that he didn't even try to deal Dive Rite because of the bad experiences he had with the two previous.

[stairman]

Sorry Me, point taken.

[scubadam67]

we have had great success with Hollis the equipment is first rate and the pricing is very good. I like that they have a very good R&D department in house so if i have an idea on a new product they can punch out prototypes in no time. I also like the idea of having multiple lines from one company (oceanic, hollis, etc.)

[Oister]

Looks like you can go with Leviathan :clapper:clapper:clapper

[Danseur]

I like everything Dive Rite sells except their regulators. (They're the same, tired old design everybody else who doesn't actually make their own reg sells.) But if you carry a high performance line such as Scubapro or Atomic, it won't matter. Just sell everything else they carry.

Well, unless you count the Hurricanes (Beuchat, DIR compliant) or the Jetstreams (Poseidon, NOT DIR) which are both regarded as high performance as well. I had a terrible experience with the Jetstreams (YMMV, could have been just THAT reg that my buddy donated), but have had universally stellar performance from the Hurricanes.

Another inexpensive tech gear company is OMS, but 100% I'd rather see you go DR. You and your customers will have a better experience. Once you get beyond backplates things start to reveal themselves.

If you need to put the most eggs in the fewest baskets, DR is the way to go.