View Full Version : custom tables for typical dives
To those of us who use custom backup tables such as for typical dive in Ginnie, Blue, etc. on typical gases, with typical surface intervals etc. I just thought it would be nice if one posting new dive report will attach his/her custom cut tables with time variations, lost deco-gas, CNS clock % load etc. for typical dive. It may make some re-usable info for the community along with a story and current cave conditions... Just a thought.
normblitch
02-25-2005, 07:44 AM
To those of us who use custom backup tables such as for typical dive in Ginnie, Blue, etc. on typical gases, with typical surface intervals etc. I just thought it would be nice if one posting new dive report will attach his/her custom cut tables with time variations, lost deco-gas, CNS clock % load etc. for typical dive. It may make some re-usable info for the community along with a story and current cave conditions... Just a thought.
How do y'all waterproof the printouts? Or, alternately, are you transcribing them into WetNotes??
Norm
How do y'all waterproof the printouts? Or, alternately, are you transcribing them into WetNotes??
Transferring to WetNotes is the best way to do it but for some basic dives it is overkill unless you take an interview from someone hanging on deco. Thanks to Tracy G. who gave me the idea: WalMart sells laminate sheets for something like a dollar you have 10 huge sheets of self adhesive plastic. Print out you tables and seal them leaving enough margin (otherwise water gets in and it has a wet look while still serving its purpose). It will make double sided table size not much larger than c-card. Pull your wetsuit neckseal/sleeve/etc. and stick it under.
PacerFan577
02-25-2005, 03:54 PM
To waterproof my tables, I print them on a laser printer (so that the ink doesn't run) and then stick them between two pieces of clear packing tape. They've made it through 50 dives so far and are no worse for the wear.
NitroxWarrior
02-25-2005, 05:33 PM
Why wouldnt you just use the navy dive tables for "typical" dives.
It doesnt make sense to push it on your dive tables when your not pushing it with your equipment. If that makes any sense...
curtschu
02-25-2005, 07:12 PM
How about laser printing om white mylar?
John L.
02-25-2005, 07:40 PM
Bass Pro Shops sell a waterproof paper that you can run thru a lazer printer, and fold up and put in your pocket.
Why wouldnt you just use the navy dive tables for "typical" dives.
I actually have laser printed copy of NAVY tables wraped in laminate. Original plastic version that is sold in shops cracks and becomes "curly" after being in sun and waters, also it is not flexible enough and has bulky size.
It doesnt make sense to push it on your dive tables when your not pushing it with your equipment. If that makes any sense...
Do you mean to make more money dissapear in products like HS Explorer, DR He and VR3, and later having one two three of them? At my recreational level there will be enough safety with V-planner and bottom timer, total cost of $200 versa $1100. Although i'm not exactly honest in it, i'm replacing one timer with another getting rid of Oceanic Veo 200 and purchasing DR Nitek Duo.
NitroxWarrior
02-28-2005, 02:37 PM
I'm just saying, when i here "typical dive" i think of less than 150 feet of water using air. If your not pushing the use of mixed gas in your dive why push a dive table made up by "some guy on a forum".
why push a dive table made up by "some guy on a forum".
This is the real question. Why would anyone post or use "common" tables? If you're at the level where you need tables, printing them up should be second nature.
Just an opinion... FWIW.
NitroxWarrior
02-28-2005, 02:52 PM
I just try to keep safe in my diving, I use the tables that are used by commercial and navy divers because they are accepted as being safe. loosing a few minutes of bottom time and decompressing for a few minutes longer doesnt bother me, seeing a loved one being rushed to the hospital while coughing up blood does bother me.
vaderfixer
02-28-2005, 03:46 PM
Hi everyone,
I'm new here but I figured I'd jump in.
Another problem with using someone elses tables is "user" profiles will vary. This is true for Abyss, if anyone still runs it.
Andy
mcmacken
02-28-2005, 03:54 PM
Why wouldnt you just use the navy dive tables for "typical" dives.
It doesnt make sense to push it on your dive tables when your not pushing it with your equipment. If that makes any sense...
Depends what a "typical dive" is. For me, a typical dive is around 100' on EAN32 for 60-90 min. Navy air tables won't help and the deco schedules they generate make me uncomfortable. Jump up to 10' and deco on back gas? That doesn't seem safe, IMHO
Why would anyone post or use "common" tables? If you're at the level where you need tables, printing them up should be second nature.
Agree with the last one, but i found myself re-using my own tables because some of u/g waterways travels become "typical". It would be interesting though to see different deco profiles and compare. Under "typical dive" category i would see: Ginnie, typical gas EAN32, typical divetime until you pick up your deco bottle at the beginning of mainline or in the Eye 40-50 mins, max depth 98-102', then surface time 1hr20mins just to drive to CEE for refill and back. Staging of cause will have separate tables. Or LR, MD=105', BT=45-50 mins, EAN32. Or Manatee, etc. etc.
It was recently here, the re-post of interesting article on deep stops. After i'v read it i noticed that V-planner shows the start of off-gassing exactly at depth as it was described in that article for the first deep stop. Now i stop myself for 2-3 mins in the middle of the Eye exit tunnel at 55' and i can feel the difference next morning!
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